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hey begginers

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thread starter johnives Feb 15 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hey i currently have a lvl 15 begginer and i need some help 1. what items should i get like a tuna (i saw urmomsacow video about not using tunas but im not sure) 2. whats a good build i get nx about every week if that helps 3. what are the "hell" levels for a begginer 4.how many people play in windia (add ibuyforcheap if you are a begginer) thank you guys soo much :P

My Characters: ibuyforcheap - 18 Windia Beginner

Rationale 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

People are not going to enjoy your spelling interpretation of beginners. . . 1) Carry many items do not constrict yourself to one type - you're a beginner after all. 2) Standard warrior-type build; str and dex. 3) All levels. 4)IDK move to Khaini, we're better.

My Characters: MntnDawn - 37 Khaini Dawn Warrior

TheSundayBest 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hell level start at seventy, it is so easy now with all of the party quests. Windia is aight but Broa in Khaini is where it is at. Honestly you don't even need to fund your beginner but the following equipment would be nice to have. Zakum Helmet 100ATT+ weapon at around level fifty Dep Star DEX wg Dex sauna/robe I suggest you go def though, it saves a ton of pots since most monsters you will be training on for the rest of your life would only do one damage. As you can see a beginner's equip is just like any other class.. but remember we are like warriors and need accuracy as well. Get a well scrolled dex wg to replace ATT since an att wg wouldn't help much anyways. And since you are funded you can go low dex at 30 or 40. A tuna is not necessary worthless piece of crap really. I would use it only for looks. I guarantee you that you are going to quit your beginner, might sound harsh but it is the truth.

My Characters: Burberrys - 52 Mardia Beginner

icy89firaga 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. what items should i get like a tuna (i saw urmomsacow video about not using tunas but im not sure) -Get a couple fun weapons and have one main weapon. Avoid the Frozen Tuna like the plague; it's slower than a computer under the Windows 95 Operating System with 4 MB of RAM. 2. whats a good build i get nx about every week if that helps -Depends on funding. If you're unfunded or underfunded, I recommend having DEX between your level and twice your level (at level 15, have 15-30 DEX, rest STR). Cap DEX around 40-70 depending on your needs for accuracy, funding, and preferences. 3. what are the "hell" levels for a begginer -Pretty much all of them. In all seriousness, getting to 20 should be a cinch if you train on Murukuns in Rien. They do way less than Ribbon Pigs and have a better HP : EXP ratio to boot. Also unlike Pig Beach, the map is more or less abandoned. My "hell" levels were 35-49. After 50, things got better for me although I STILL didn't have a Z-helm. I didn't really experience another "hell" until I got to 70. I've countered that by going card hunting instead of grinding. 4.how many people play in windia (add ibuyforcheap if you are a begginer) -I have no idea, although if you're strapped for cash, I have an old 2x Beginner there with some equips you can have. I have no plans on continuing in Windia, especially since icy89firaga is my main focus.

My Characters: icy89firaga - 74 Broa Beginner

johnives 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i probally wont for the sole reason that i hate most of the other class and i think being a begginer is a great achivment

My Characters: ibuyforcheap - 18 Windia Beginner

purplefoosa + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'll add you, I wont be playing all the much lately though, I got hacked and I have almost NO motivation to play -_-. Don't get a tuna, NOT worth it. zHelm helps A LOT if you have the cash for one, and yeah, being a beginner is great XD. Just do it for fun, if you REALLY NEED to level, then it probably isnt for you. EDIT: BEGINNER! TWO N'S SIR! ONE G! /end caps lock.

My Characters: Lagwagon13 - 60 Windia Beginner

zoulen 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] icy89firaga : 1. what items should i get like a tuna (i saw urmomsacow video about not using tunas but im not sure) -Get a couple fun weapons and have one main weapon. Avoid the Frozen Tuna like the plague; it's slower than a computer under the Windows 95 Operating System with 4 MB of RAM. 2. whats a good build i get nx about every week if that helps -Depends on funding. If you're unfunded or underfunded, I recommend having DEX between your level and twice your level (at level 15, have 15-30 DEX, rest STR). Cap DEX around 40-70 depending on your needs for accuracy, funding, and preferences. 3. what are the "hell" levels for a begginer -Pretty much all of them. In all seriousness, getting to 20 should be a cinch if you train on Murukuns in Rien. They do way less than Ribbon Pigs and have a better HP : EXP ratio to boot. Also unlike Pig Beach, the map is more or less abandoned. My "hell" levels were 35-49. After 50, things got better for me although I STILL didn't have a Z-helm. I didn't really experience another "hell" until I got to 70. I've countered that by going card hunting instead of grinding. 4.how many people play in windia (add ibuyforcheap if you are a begginer) -I have no idea, although if you're strapped for cash, I have an old 2x Beginner there with some equips you can have. I have no plans on continuing in Windia, especially since icy89firaga is my main focus. [/quote] Listen to Adam, what he said about the Tuna is 100% true. :3

My Characters: KHBeginner - 57 Broa Beginner

GunDelHel + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. Decide if you want Raw Power or Extreme Defense. Beginners have a high defense formula compared to jobbies, so us using defense equips is actually a good idea. (And listen to Adam about the Tuna, it sucks) 2. Use Auto-Assign until level 20, Bump your Dex up to 40 and go to Sand Rats until 30, Bump your Dex up to somewhere between 50 and 70 and go to CPQ and Drum Bunnies (Or Sand Rats if you like the spawn). You should try to cap your dex somewhere from 50~70, and try to get a Z-helm, it'll be great for your accuracy AND your defense. 3. In all honesty--It depends on how used to the game you are. I've been playing this game since... Beta in 2004. So 6 years of playing this game and knowing the ins and outs = 4 days to get to 50. Then, I slowed down and stuck to about a level or two a day--plus I had band and prior commitments to take care of. However, I have met plenty of people in their 30s~40s who are having trouble. To me, the true Hell levels for a beginner are 70+. You run out of good XP-based PQs, MPQ is just a pain to get a party for, most of the grind spots are low XP (I'm lucky if I get 10% per hour grinding), and you run out of great equips to look forward to. 4. Decent amount, IIRC. However, Windia in general doesn't seem like a good world to play in...

My Characters: Tetrin - 83 Broa Beginner

icy89firaga 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

To add to what Zach said, there are a few general Beginner architypes- DEF Beginners (like him), STR Beginners (like myself), HP Beginners, DEX Beginners, and mixed ones. You pretty much have those to pick from. I'll only lists the pros of each: DEF- You take 1 damage from just about everything you'd train on. At level 50 with over 300 defense, Stone Golems do a very pitiful 1 damage to you. With a HT and being over 120, you're (nearly) impervious to touch damage. STR- You hit HARD. You (generally) don't care about defense; it's all about PWN'ing the monsters no matter what it takes. HP- You can survive PQ's better and just in general have more party value due to better HP. DEX- You can hit things much more easily than others and you have more stable damage. You don't have as good of average damage, but it is at least (somewhat) more consistent. As for equips, some ideal end-game equips would include (provided you actually make it that far): -Zhelm or Scarlion Hat -Horntail Necklace -Crimson Arcglaive/Purple Surfboard/Sky Skis/Gold Duck Tube (not sure official name) -30+ STR Bath/Sauna (assuming you have enough accuracy to hit w/e you train on) -Violet Snowshoes or Facestompers -Stormcasters or some 15+ atk glove -4+ Atk Cape -Wtich Belt with attack on it -W/e glasses or face accessory you can get -W/e earrings

My Characters: icy89firaga - 74 Broa Beginner

johnives 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

allright thank you guys you helped alot

My Characters: ibuyforcheap - 18 Windia Beginner

GunDelHel + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] icy89firaga : As for equips, some ideal end-game equips would include (provided you actually make it that far): -Zhelm or Scarlion Hat -Horntail Necklace -Crimson Arcglaive/Purple Surfboard/Sky Skis/Gold Duck Tube (not sure official name) -30+ STR Bath/Sauna (assuming you have enough accuracy to hit w/e you train on) -Violet Snowshoes or Facestompers -Stormcasters or some 15+ atk glove -4+ Atk Cape -Wtich Belt with attack on it -W/e glasses or face accessory you can get -W/e earrings [/quote] Unless you decide to go the defense path..In which case your final equips will look something like: -Zak Helm or Scarlion Helm -HT Pendant -Lv 64 Fan, Emergency Rescue Tube, Colorful Tube, Lv 100 Duck Tube (Lv 64 Fan is the best overall, sporting a Faster attack speed, stable damage on both slashes and stabs, HP bonus, and still allowing you the ability to equip a shield and use three-snails) -Ideal a Def-scrolled Maple Shield, Black Phoenix Shield, or Palette. However it's much easier and cheaper to find a godly Def-scrolled Wooden Fence. -Def scrolled top -Def scrolled Stirgeman pants -Violet Snowshoes -Attack scrolled Mechanical Gloves -Purple Witch Belt or Immortal Pharoah's Belt for solid Def bonuses -Def scrolled Cape, Amos' Royal Cape being the first cape worth scrolling for Def -12 Def (clean) Cecelia's Earrings

My Characters: Tetrin - 83 Broa Beginner

Ralinda4 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If you see a cheap level 20 tuna then I suggest you get one but otherwise just use common wepons until 48/50 when you should get a great lvl 50 weapon or a liu bei sword or a guan yu polearm. I got a super snowboard but although this is a gret weapon it's extremly expensive. Mine was 76 attack 0 slot 20 speed and still cost 11k nx. Save your nx if you want one of them... And to all those tuna haters beat this. http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6348/levelsralinda4541.png yes I know the appled range was with my snowboard but the tuna was 200 points higher.

My Characters: ralinda454 - 51 Scania Beginner

zoulen 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Ralinda4 : If you see a cheap level 20 tuna then I suggest you get one but otherwise just use common wepons until 48/50 when you should get a great lvl 50 weapon or a liu bei sword or a guan yu polearm. I got a super snowboard but although this is a gret weapon it's extremly expensive. Mine was 76 attack 0 slot 20 speed and still cost 11k nx. Save your nx if you want one of them... And to all those tuna haters beat this. http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6348/levelsralinda4541.png yes I know the appled range was with my snowboard but the tuna was 200 points higher. [/quote] That range ain't even that great. The key reason tuna's are pointless is because of the speed and the rarity. You can find plenty of faster equips that have the same attack at Level 50. Since there are so many pq's it would take less then a month to reach level 50 so using a polearm for such a short time would be useless especially for its price. My level 64 Glory sword is 100 attack, and I paid fairly cheap for it.

My Characters: KHBeginner - 57 Broa Beginner

Ralinda4 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] zoulen : That range ain't even that great. The key reason tuna's are pointless is because of the speed and the rarity. You can find plenty of faster equips that have the same attack at Level 50. Since there are so many pq's it would take less then a month to reach level 50 so using a polearm for such a short time would be useless especially for its price. My level 64 Glory sword is 100 attack, and I paid fairly cheap for it. [/quote] However at lvl 20 my range was awsome with a 92 attack weapon. Also, how can you efficiently get into then complete any pq between 1 and 50? lpq is full of noobs, hpq is hard in the levels when it's good exp especially for a beginner and in kpq people want jobbed people.

My Characters: ralinda454 - 51 Scania Beginner

zoulen 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Ralinda4 : However at lvl 20 my range was awsome with a 92 attack weapon. Also, how can you efficiently get into then complete any pq between 1 and 50? lpq is full of noobs, hpq is hard in the levels when it's good exp especially for a beginner and in kpq people want jobbed people. [/quote] I managed to pq my entire way to my lvl. KPQ took 3 days of pqing to reach 30. LPQ took 2-3 weeks to reach 50.

My Characters: KHBeginner - 57 Broa Beginner