Approximate Level For Skeles?

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thread starter iFIew Feb 14 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What is the approximate level that most heros start to one hit skeles? I started to two hit skeles at 133-ish, but training is a bit slow without stance >.<

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Senyain 02/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Depends. How consistently are you talking about? Your damage range's base figure needs to pass about 8308 (for max) to start one-hitting them with a very low rate of success. For a constant one-hit you would need 8350 as your min, which I don't think is doable without very high attack buffs.

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iFIew 02/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well, yes constantly. So 8350? Does that factor in Defense and other issues?

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Senyain 02/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iFIew : Well, yes constantly. So 8350? Does that factor in Defense and other issues? [/quote] Defense is why the two are different, otherwise they would be the same number. For min, if you work with max AC, max Brandish and defense, then the calculation would look like: [(8350 * 1.9) - 480] * 5.2 = 80,002. Like I said I'm pretty sure 8350 is unreachable as a min with common buffs. A 2h sword user with 1300 STR, 120 DEX and 250 weapon attack could just barely manage it, as could a 1h sword user with similar stats but 286 attack. For max needed, that computation would be [(8308 * 1.9) - 400] * 5.2 = 80,003. 8308 is obviously more realistic as a max than 8350 is as a min. The difference between the two is the defense factor, 480 for min (0.6 * wdef) and 400 for max (0.5 * wdef).

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iFIew + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Oh I see. Thanks Looks like quite a few more levels

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SmileForMe 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't think hero's realistically can one hit skelegons.

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markobaa 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ill skele with u ! :D

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CorsairKen 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SmileForMe : I don't think hero's realistically can one hit skelegons. [/quote] They can, just not 100% of the time like funded Dark Knights do. iFIew is one of those heavily funded heroes with high hp and damage range.

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jonatan 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

This guy can definately 1 hit skeles...

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SmileForMe 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] CorsairKen : They can, just not 100% of the time like funded Dark Knights do. iFIew is one of those heavily funded heroes with high hp and damage range. [/quote] The strongest hero's in GMS barely have an 8.3k max range.

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iFIew + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SmileForMe : The strongest hero's in GMS barely have an 8.3k max range. [/quote] o.o VoltesV and VarsityHero both has 10-11k max range. There are a lot with 8.3k+ max ranges.

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Senyain 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

8308 max is not that unachievable. What's much less achievable is an 8350 min range. Example of being able to one-hit a small % of the time: 900 STR; 100 DEX; 225 weapon attack w/ 1h sword = 8325 max base Example of being able to one-hit 100% of the time: 1300 STR; 120 DEX; 250 weapon attack w/ 2h sword = 8373 min base. The first is actually realistic for very heavily-funded (or at least high-attack) 18x-19x, if using Enrage at least. The second? I don't think that's reachable in GMS without at minimum an Onyx Apple as the buff.

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djp2313 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Senyain : The first is actually realistic for very heavily-funded (or at least high-attack) 18x-19x, if using Enrage at least. The second? I don't think that's reachable in GMS without at minimum an Onyx Apple as the buff. [/quote] It's reachable, but to get that sort of Str you're gonna be very high-lvl'd -- the wattk, while a large amount, is defintely possible with all the gear we have nowadays -- not for an ave player but still reachable Did you include the skeles def buff up in any of these calcs? I remember it making it a lot more difficult when doing the same thing for drks

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ViolinFTW 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Senyain : 8308 max is not that unachievable. What's much less achievable is an 8350 min range. Example of being able to one-hit a small % of the time: 900 STR; 100 DEX; 225 weapon attack w/ 1h sword = 8325 max base Example of being able to one-hit 100% of the time: 1300 STR; 120 DEX; 250 weapon attack w/ 2h sword = 8373 min base. The first is actually realistic for very heavily-funded (or at least high-attack) 18x-19x, if using Enrage at least. The second? I don't think that's reachable in GMS without at minimum an Onyx Apple as the buff. [/quote] I agree, the strongest heros in gms have like what 12k max? xD

Senyain 02/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] djp2313 : It's reachable, but to get that sort of Str you're gonna be very high-lvl'd -- the wattk, while a large amount, is defintely possible with all the gear we have nowadays -- not for an ave player but still reachable Did you include the skeles def buff up in any of these calcs? I remember it making it a lot more difficult when doing the same thing for drks [/quote] I'm afraid not... since monster buffs are one of those things I don't understand, and since a 1-hitter would obviously not have to worry about them surviving to use it, I chose not to bother with that. I don't think 250 is reachable for a 2h sword user outside alt. servers. 1h sword, maybe, but not 2h, not without chaos gear the likes of which will never be approached in actual GMS. Let's see... if we ignore the whole "have decent enough speed to be worth it" factor for the weapon, I suppose a 155 att 2h sword, 10 att pendant, 30 att glove, 20 att cape, 6 att belt, and 17 att shoe, plus Rage, could do it. Yeah, good luck with that. I've experimented and some of those alone would take way more chaos scrolls than probably exist. For instance, a 17 att/15 str Taru cape alone took over 150 chaos scrolls on about 110 capes.

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