Lvl 12 Piercing Arrow or Iron Arrow?

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thread starter ChibiCross Feb 04 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So I heard level 11 pierce automatically replaces ia, but does this still apply when 6 monsters are standing in front of you, and you charge in front of the mob? In obliv 3, since I'm pretty weak, the mobs get really dense after a while so i often encounter mobs of 6+ all frozen, and i'm not sure which skill i should use. Basically, lvl 12 pierce vs ia in mobs of 6, dpm wise?

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tbonez 02/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

LOL? lvl 1 pierce kicks the crap out of IA O.o

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Starbomba 02/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] tbonez : LOL? lvl 1 pierce kicks the crap out of IA O.o [/quote] DPH-wise, yes. but DPM, no. lvl 11 pierce>IA, in DPM @TS: i've been using my pierce since it was lvl 11, and being able to 3-4HKO a mob of 5 skeles is great i use IA mostly as a lurer now, be it at skeles or ToT

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ChibiCross 02/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Alright thanks starbomba :D I only use ia for a finisher now, since i don't usually train at skeles.

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coolsmiley1 02/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I can't wait til I get my pierce to 11+. Even though it's only lvl 1 it's tons of fun! Plus it looks wicked.

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xArchArrowz 02/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sorry for the newbie question but how do you train with Pierce? Is it DB > Blizzard > Pierce? And then when the monsters are at the corner you just blizzard occasionally and charge/release Pierce?

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ultralowincome 02/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

^^That's a good question actually~ I have it at 1 so I only bust it out once in while to see the big numbers, but with the one second charge time, IA is still tops in terms of killing speed. It also relies on MMB to be truly effective, but I'd rather have Pierce at 11 or 21 before pumping into MMB, just for the number of mobs and percentage mulitplier I get

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xArchArrowz 02/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Any high level Marksmen want to share their tips on training with Pierce?

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Freeinternet 02/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It is pretty fun to use, especially when it hits the 5th monster it usually two hits it REALLY easily. I currently have Pierce at level 11 right now at level 129, the only problem with Pierce is gathering mobs since Dragon Breath only picks up four monsters and you often push a bunch back and if there are more than four monsters you just have one sticking out and you can't Blizzard the entire mob, so you better get use to using Puppet in those situations until you get 21 Dragon Breath as well.

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mark1414 02/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xArchArrowz : Any high level Marksmen want to share their tips on training with Pierce? [/quote] At skele's i just u bliz, DB and pierce till they are al dead. Not to hard with lvl 23 pierce.

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Starbomba 02/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i have 17 pierce, and i do the same as mark1414. DB>bliz>Pierce till they die or defrost i do the bliz after i DB, so the freeze effect can last longer

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ChibiCross + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Freeinternet : It is pretty fun to use, especially when it hits the 5th monster it usually two hits it REALLY easily. I currently have Pierce at level 11 right now at level 129, the only problem with Pierce is gathering mobs since Dragon Breath only picks up four monsters and you often push a bunch back and if there are more than four monsters you just have one sticking out and you can't Blizzard the entire mob, so you better get use to using Puppet in those situations until you get 21 Dragon Breath as well. [/quote] For the db situation, i generally freeze them all first, if there are mobs of 5+, then db and pkb the last 1/2 standing. I don't really know how to use puppet to help grab the mobs, do you put it in front, or in the back to prevent magic attacks? Although, it takes me roughly 4-6 fully charged pierces for a mob of obliv guards which takes a while ;_;

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killerfan 02/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xArchArrowz : Any high level Marksmen want to share their tips on training with Pierce? [/quote] DB>blizzard>pierce repeat steps 2-3 until oblivion guardians are dead

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ytrewq1248 02/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

in the IA vs pierce debate, these are also other matters to think about such as: Def of the monster and the fact that you can charge pierce when you move up a ladder, so you can charge it up as you gather and luer the next mob of skelies.

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Freeinternet 02/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ChibiCross : For the db situation, i generally freeze them all first, if there are mobs of 5+, then db and pkb the last 1/2 standing. I don't really know how to use puppet to help grab the mobs, do you put it in front, or in the back to prevent magic attacks? Although, it takes me roughly 4-6 fully charged pierces for a mob of obliv guards which takes a while ;_; [/quote] I always put it in back to avoid the magic attacks so they will all get to a point where Frostprey freezes up to four of them and when there is more than four I Blizzard them so they don't walk all over me. Also to mention I am doing this at Peak of the Big Nest. I don't know how far Oblivions will attack the Puppet because I noticed Qualm Monk Trainees at Road of Regrets 2 hit me from far away, but when I place a Puppet down they usually have to get in closer for a magic attack.

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