How effectively can WKs boss? and their %/hr training?

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thread starter Teriyakibeef Feb 03 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If something could give me just a broad range of the levels and most popular/efficient training spots for a WK, that would be great. I hear the hell levels are 110-120 or something like that. Also, can WKs boss? Are WKs able to kill BF? I had a DK friend who literally leveled just from killing BFs while selling leech. Though I heard WKs aren't that good at bossing. I also heard that it's hard to not get KSed as a WK at Pianus. Can't think of any other bosses ATM. If I find out that WKs can't boss moderately well until 4th job, I'll probably not add to FA for my future WK so that I can level a bit quicker.

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sevenofnine 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Training spots are covered in the stickies. Please read them as people have put a lot of work into them. WKs are terrible at bossing, given that many bosses are neutral. That said, as a warrior class, we have a good survivability rate. =) I can't imagine how long a WK BF run would take. I certainly wouldn't recommend it. It'd be too easy for a higher level class to come and KS you. As for FA, it will increase your DPM at bossing. Don't make your WK suck at bossing more than he has to! -_-"

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VinnSword 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Think of it this way, if you dont like FA after you dump 30 points into it at lvl70, then just train at mobs of1-3 until lvl 87 when you will have maxed charged blow for mobs 4-6

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demonplease 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Not sure about what's going on nowadays..closing in on a yr of inactivity, but Paladin's are kill Big Food just as well as Heroes.... = )

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Viaje 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Um... most Third Jobs are relatively terrible at bossing. Come on, Bigfoot? Are you serious? For one, any unwashed WK wouldn't have the HP to take a hit without Hyper Body. Secondly, it would likely be miserable to try without Blast. Also, use the stickies. [quote] VinnSword : Think of it this way, if you dont like FA after you dump 30 points into it at lvl70, then just train at mobs of1-3 until lvl 87 when you will have maxed charged blow for mobs 4-6 [/quote] Charged Blow sucks. Not worth using even if you have FA.

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Mancartia + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah, if a DK was hunting bigfoot before level 120 it was only through HP washing, and it probably took a long time. I killed a BF once on my Hermit at level 118, and it took me 50 minutes. Not a great length of time for what amounts to about 12% exp. And Hermits have pretty decent single target damage for a 3rd job class. Honestly I don't think there's any level range where a warrior should rely on killing bosses to gain exp. It's never much better than training, generally (for warriors) a big pot burn, and so much easier for you to be KS'd by someone 20-40 levels higher.

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sevenofnine 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Viaje : Charged Blow sucks. Not worth using even if you have FA. [/quote] Wow... sounds like you just leeched your way to 111. Congrats.

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Viaje 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] sevenofnine : Wow... sounds like you just leeched your way to 111. Congrats. [/quote] And sounds to me like you're an ignoramus. Because, clearly, not thinking it's worth it to charge-attack-charge means I leeched. That's the sign, right? Or is it just anyone who disagrees with you? Because I'm pretty sure I can find other White Knights and Paladins who will agree that Charged Blow before ACB is utterly worthless. Are you going to tell them they leeched as well? Try to be less daft in the future, thanks.

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CTBlack 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I agree CB is useless, even after I had maxed. I tried to use it before, but it was such a pain to have to rebuff while not all the mobs were stun and makes you have to tank the hits while rebuffing.

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starwolf 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Charge Blow is merely a finisher or stunner, it still hardly increases your killing speed. Viaje said it all, no need to add more to it besides for the fact that I agree with him.

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Skrato 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Mancartia : Yeah, if a DK was hunting bigfoot before level 120 it was only through HP washing, and it probably took a long time. I killed a BF once on my Hermit at level 118, and it took me 50 minutes. Not a great length of time for what amounts to about 12% exp. And Hermits have pretty decent single target damage for a 3rd job class. Honestly I don't think there's any level range where a warrior should rely on killing bosses to gain exp. It's never much better than training, generally (for warriors) a big pot burn, and so much easier for you to be KS'd by someone 20-40 levels higher. [/quote] Actually BF killing at 150-160+ is very good, cheap and easy exp for warriors

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Gardor 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I soloed my first right Pianus today. Took almost 30mins though with apples... For the CB thing, I have it maxed right now, and I kinda wish I had gone with another charge instead of it. Its somewhat useful for stunning and as a finisher, but its a pain to have to cast your charge after, especially since they take so dang long to cast.... LF>Charges with Booster cast time.

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dwayner 02/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Gardor : I soloed my first right Pianus today. Took almost 30mins though with apples... For the CB thing, I have it maxed right now, and I kinda wish I had gone with another charge instead of it. Its somewhat useful for stunning and as a finisher, but its a pain to have to cast your charge after, especially since they take so dang long to cast.... LF>Charges with Booster cast time. [/quote] Im at level 90 now and im looking to solo a pianus but i didnt think I could do it, whats your damage range?

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sevenofnine + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Viaje : And sounds to me like you're an ignoramus. Because, clearly, not thinking it's worth it to charge-attack-charge means I leeched. That's the sign, right? Or is it just anyone who disagrees with you? Because I'm pretty sure I can find other White Knights and Paladins who will agree that Charged Blow before ACB is utterly worthless. Are you going to tell them they leeched as well? Try to be less daft in the future, thanks. [/quote] [quote] Viaje : And sounds to me like you're an ignoramus. Because, clearly, not thinking it's worth it to charge-attack-charge means I leeched. That's the sign, right? Or is it just anyone who disagrees with you? Because I'm pretty sure I can find other White Knights and Paladins who will agree that Charged Blow before ACB is utterly worthless. Are you going to tell them they leeched as well? Try to be less daft in the future, thanks. [/quote] No - you are entitled to your opinion of course. That said, when your opinion is based on misinformation and you try to pass that off as a legitimate point of view, I have an issue with that. Although the increased amount of training spots with freezable monsters has lessened the need to max CB after the 3rd job advancement, it is a very valuable and useful skill if you know how to use it. Clearly, you do not - and what's perhaps even worse, is that you give lower level WKs a wrong impression about their future skills. If you want to be ignorant, fine, just don't misleadingly drag others down into your pit of WK self-hatred.

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Teriyakibeef + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Oops, I didn't mean specific training spots, I meant the %/hr at the popular training spots. And how are paladins at BF? I meant my Drk friend leveled 12x-13x by BF, not DK. :P

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