Maplestory and the Economy Blues

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thread starter slapingo Jan 21 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

As everyone knows, the MS economy is really bad at this moment. Items are at an all time high, and they shouldn't be. A lot of players don't know wy they are so high. Well, I am here to enlighten you. Crack open you skull and let some knowledge come in, crack open your cranium and let awareness begin. Meso Farming for those of you who don't know what Meso Farming is, here is a little definition: meso farming is where players of the game farm mesos in one form or another and sell them for actual money on sites that are in no way affilliated with MS or NX. Players who do this kind of business try to keep it under wraps. Some of you might ask "how does this effect the economy and the game play?". Let me give you an example: Maplestory is made up of 90% of average players. When I say "average" I mean the people who EARN their mesos by hunting, npcing ect. items, or barting for a fair price for drops and other equipment. The equipment that lower level people wear, are usually hand me downs from higher level players who sold it to them for a FAIR price. Who wants to pay over 1mil mesos for a pair of shoes? 10% of the MS population controls 99% of the wealth. Why is that, you ask? It's because the "lower class" people buy mesos with real money from the "upper class" who are selling them. So when they buy mesos with money, the effect on the economy is like that of our own. When people are buying mesos with real money, the prices of items in MS go up. Does this make them more valuble and rare? No. It just makes their prices inflated. Also, why would you waste REAL MONEY on FAKE MONEY? You can't even HOLD mesos in your hand. They are nothing but pixels. Are you ever going to see the items you buy in real life? No. So why would you help someone make a profit off of something that doesn't really exist? Free Market...More Like Suck Market Walk among the FM and you will see a load of shops. Look in those shops and you will see items on sale. For a lot of Mesos. Who as ever heard of buying an Onyx Apple for 99mil Mesos? And that is just for one. There are a few reasons the prices are at an all time high in the FM: 1.) Mesos Farming (it seems to be at the center of everything) 2.) Players just follow BLINDLY the prices that are there 3.) There is too much Mesos in the Economy (because of Meso Farming) and it has to go somewhere, and it goes into the FM with all of the over priced items. There is a cure for those three reasons on why the MS economy is so bad right now. 1.) Don't buy fake money with real money 2.) Say NO to outrageous prices in the FM. DO NOT SETTLE. FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU WANT. DO NOT BE BULLIED BY THE "UPPER CLASS" 3.) No one should be buying equips from other players until after level 40. You can get the equips you need from the NPCs in your players respective towns. I understand you cannot find earrings in stores, but you don't have to pay over the top for them either. 4.) A boycott of the FM and Meso Farming would force the players who control th

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slapingo 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It does, doesn't? I just want to be a good Business woman, not a greedy one. Business should be abbout service with a smile and helping your customers reach their goals. It should be about how much you can make off of some newb in the FM. The new players to the game get hit the hardest. I want to protect them and the other players. And Infinite, I hope you're being serious and not mocking me. f3

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astrologynut 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] infiniteIQx : The bourgeoisie is exploiting the proletariat. This calls for a proletariat revolution. Once we proletariats rebel, we shall establish a short dictator, and then the era of True Communism will begin. The era of Maple Socialism will be ushered in as an era of peace and prosperity. [/quote] Sir, I salute your genius turn of phrase. The scary thing is... some people will really believe what you say!

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Pyrogetta 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Also, Why did nobody mention... If people stopped using NX, there will come an end to this game? o_o I don't see the difference between buying a 2x exp card and buying a haircoupon. It's both unnecessary. And these are both ways of spending NX, so that you and I can continue to enjoy the game. Everybody can get rich, without buying meso online. When I get a Glove ATT scroll while I'm a mage, I want to SELL that. In a freakin' FM. So that I can buy a Glove M.ATT myself. Or whatever. In my opinion the FM makes the game more fun.

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achyif + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

no no no. -if everyone grew their own food, built their own houses, taught their own education, built their own cars, created their own programs, built their own computers, created their own soap, etc, then where would our world be now? it's a matter of supply and demand, some people want lots without work, and some people want to work hard for money off those people. you can't get ahead in life by not working, but in maple, it's possible. just spend a couple bucks on nx cash.... -the way you say maple should be, we should take out the "MMO" out of the "MMORPG" definition for maple. -making and keeping up a guild is very difficult. you have to deal with inactivity, scammers, jrs that delete everyone, weirdoes, etc. -did you ever know that you can actually find really good deals in the fm? not to mention that not everyone can afford to scroll their items to get the "pro-ness" that they want. people still care about damage, youknow, and if you think they shouldn't, some people jsut like to spend their time like that -the fm does "control" prices, even if it means that they remain high. but theyre constant. -mesos and items arent "fake". theyre just as real and important as looks, (extra)wealth, brand clothing, big houses, gourmet food. it's all in the mind, it makes yourself happy, and people respect you. -why do merchants put prices up so high? because there's the DEMAND for them. even without merchants, prices will inflate and deflate the same way they are now. -and if communism in a game? ..... you know people tend to take whatever they have to the most advantage possible... even if it wasnt intended in the first place. that's how leech appeared. it's the same way with merchanting. eventually people are going to find a "loophole" (most likely against tos) if an online game is turned into communism, and they will be ahead while everyone else has no chance of catching up -yes, survival of the fittest. o.o do you realize how hard it is for merchants to make their money and gain connections and a reputation? that's why there's only a few. -it isnt that hard to make money anymore. when people start a game, they usually don't realize what's considered "a lot" or "a little". it doesnt really matter back then, and if they don't like it, there are plenty of other "free games" -and maple is still free. if you made a choice to spend money on nx, then that was your idea. you still have a choice whether or not maple is free. -continuing...

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smartguy11 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Boycotts never work on the internet.

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YouE 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

U guys r jus people who who r noobs wit weak atk if u dnt like pro players dnt play. Survival of the fitest

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SetSail4Fail 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Fail If you intend to run a free market economy as exist in all mmo you cannot expect me and fellow merchants to pass up on a profit for an item someone is willing to pay for. Also you say people should say no to my prices well check this the reason they buy them is because they need them even if 1 person says no to my prices another will walk right up and gladly pay the price.

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hialbert 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

That 10% can do very much D: The worst fear of what they can do is buying all the items that are highest in demand, and Npcing them

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astrologynut 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

In some ways the game has been made easier. Now there are umpteen low level quests with really nice exp rewards. There never used to be. I remember the days before cpq when to actually train you needed money for potions. Now you dont. The lower exp curve. Now you got people calling for boycotts to make the game easier financially. Well, heres a suggestion, rather than whining, why not put effort into making mesos. I am by no means rich but I do put some effort into making mesos? Whatsmore, we are going to see more and more of this whining again once Evans eventually come out whenever that will be. Mage-related prices will go up and everyone will whine about it despite knowing it would happen. It happened with pirates, happened with arans, and it will happen with evans but people wont plan ahead and buy stuff while its cheaper and then will whine and cry about it later.

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slapingo 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] YouE : U guys r jus people who who r noobs wit weak atk if u dnt like pro players dnt play. Survival of the fitest [/quote] I'm sorry...I couldn't understand your poor grammar. Run that back by me again, please.

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Nesteavs 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

you don't pay for pixel's u pay for the time it took to make those pixel's like 2exp for example

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plain88 01/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I WOULD merchant if you didn't have to buy friggin NX to get one of those damn shops. It's almost impossible to merch w/o one when the only ones buying your items are merchants themselves. Considering ts doesn't buy NX, it IS going to be hard for her to make mesos.

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astrologynut 01/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@ Above, yes because 1800nx for a store is really a lot. $1.80 for 90 days and you set your store up at night when you go to bed. Really extortionate. You dont HAVE to buy a mush hut to sell stuff and make mesos. Being able to spend on NX does make it easier but its not essential. People just like to whine about the economy in this game. To illustrate the point further, and also show up the complete and utter logic fail of some players regarding this, about 10 days ago I had one player stalk and harass me calling me 1) an effing merchant then 2) complaining that I sold everything TOO cheaply. Bizarrely he couldn't see the contradiction there. So, on one hand you have people complaining about high prices, then on the other hand if you try to sell things for what you consider to be a fair price reflective of real worth (not necessarily what the concensus views something to be worth) then other players will whine at you too for selling too cheaply. Sometimes you can't win.

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dylanf3 01/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

On the shop i and my friend run, there is a constant stream of very cheap scrolls (Galicia CH1FM8 standard Baregon shop) And people claim us to be effing merchs, and what u say, that we sell too cheap! Im doin leps now, and if i get steelys, the price will just me 2M, so pppl just relax to it. Never make the prices so high no one can buy em, but neither make em so low everyone buys em, and u dont make profit.

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XxSparkehxX 01/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Did you know 57.42% of statistics are made up on the spot?

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