Where you put in on your macro?

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thread starter xCbabyx Sep 07 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

And do I have to put at least 1 point on it ASAP?

Holeinshoe Sep 07 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

BS Taunt BS in a macro might be good. I've heard it's pretty good even at level 1 but I have no experience using it so before you decide what to do you might want to wait for a more experienced Shadower to come in. Other skills might be more important first since it has a req before you can add it. If you were maxxing fake and didn't have a point in taunt I'd definitely put it in, but I'm not sure if adding 5 fake(That's the req, right?) just to put 1 in taunt would be worth it early in your job. If you really wanted to put it in I'd wait until at least 21-30 BS before rushing into it. As I've already stated, wait for a more experienced Shadower. I don't like leaving threads with 0 posts when It's something I can give a decent reply to.

Doomfinger 09/07/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wait for your BS to hit 4 monsters and then put 1 point in it. That's what I suggest but even I still haven't got it (lvl 128). I might put 1 point in it if I'm able to sell leech :D

Kazegiri Sep 07 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

NEVER put Taunt on a macro. The defence boost you give to enemies is horrible if you hit a monster with full HP with it, so you really have to use it manually with the HP indicator. Well, that's obviously the case for higher level Taunt. 11% damage reduction isn't that bad, but still. As for putting SP in it ASAP... well it's as you wish, really, but getting +11% EXP and drop isn't bad at all when you're fighting mobs. It's not that great a boost against 1-2 enemies, especially since it takes a long enough time to cast. However, put more SP in it and it becomes even better :p (so far I have +31% EXP/drop)

xCbabyx 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

"The defence boost you give to enemies is horrible if you hit a monster with full HP with it, so you really have to use it manually with the HP indicator." Hey, Can you please explain what you wrote? Does the hp of the monster matter? Now I feel I know nothing about that skill :P Ant BTW I didn't realize that I need 10 points on SS in order to PUT 1 point in Taunt. I have now lvl 24 BStep, I assume the best is to max it before anything else, right? Should i max SS to 10 after BStep and then put 1 on Taunt? But then the Assissinate will have to wait too long F3 Help

Kazegiri 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'll just copy what I wrote in my FAQ, it should explain everything. Taunt Description: Throws a dagger forward in a straight line. Every monster (up to 6) hit by the dagger gets a boost in EXP, drop rate and damage reduction. This is not a simple small boost in weapon defence: the monster will really get less damage when you hit it. Monsters hit with Taunt will have little puffs of smoke coming up from the top of their head. You might also be interested to know that: - Taunt is THE reason why Shadowers get the best EXP of all 4th jobs after Mages. - Taunt does NOT unstun monsters it hits - If the small damage from Taunt kills a monster, you will not get the bonus EXP - Taunt�s animation is a bit longer than BS� cooldown. Using BS-Taunt-BS is thus a bit slower than using BS-SB-BS - Taunt�s range is a tad shorter than BS� - The dagger thrown is really thin, so make sure you aim well at the vertical level. You can jump and use Taunt in the air if you need, so time your jump well to hit as many monsters as possible. Skill and Mastery books: Skillbook - El Nath PQ | 20 - Manon | 30 - Guild Quest Pre-requisite: Level 10 Shadow Shifter Max Level: 30

xCbabyx 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thanks

oliquido Sep 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Kazegiri : NEVER put Taunt on a macro. The defence boost you give to enemies is horrible if you hit a monster with full HP with it, so you really have to use it manually with the HP indicator. Well, that's obviously the case for higher level Taunt. 11% damage reduction isn't that bad, but still. As for putting SP in it ASAP... well it's as you wish, really, but getting +11% EXP and drop isn't bad at all when you're fighting mobs. It's not that great a boost against 1-2 enemies, especially since it takes a long enough time to cast. However, put more SP in it and it becomes even better :p (so far I have +31% EXP/drop) woah i thought taunt was only good if you have high venom or if you can 2 hit em. where do you train and how much exp do you get/hr?also, how do you train?

Kazegiri 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

oliquido : woah i thought taunt was only good if you have high venom or if you can 2 hit em. where do you train and how much exp do you get/hr?also, how do you train? I don't really train :p The few times I did, I think I was getting about 15% an hour at Skeles... perhaps a bit less, I don't know, I could try if you want :p As for how to train... well since I'm killing Skeles in 3 BS, I only have to do BS-BS-Taunt-BS.

oliquido 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Kazegiri : I don't really train :p The few times I did, I think I was getting about 15% an hour at Skeles... perhaps a bit less, I don't know, I could try if you want :p As for how to train... well since I'm killing Skeles in 3 BS, I only have to do BS-BS-Taunt-BS. oh wow 15%/hr thats actually quite a bit. please could you include an indepth analysis in ur guide, i've never actually heard of any shads around 14x with high taunt. this could actually be a breakthrough. :P

Kazegiri 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

oliquido : oh wow 15%/hr thats actually quite a bit. please could you include an indepth analysis in ur guide, i've never actually heard of any shads around 14x with high taunt. this could actually be a breakthrough. :P I think I did write all I know about Taunt :p It's here and there in the guide. My build is still experimental, so I don't give it yet in the recommended builds, but I might include it soon enough. It's not that complicated, really, just Taunt monsters when they have low HP and TA-DA. Just avoid Taunting monsters with full HP :p

ColdZone 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

15% a hour at Skels is Bull

oliquido 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Kazegiri : I think I did write all I know about Taunt :p It's here and there in the guide. My build is still experimental, so I don't give it yet in the recommended builds, but I might include it soon enough. It's not that complicated, really, just Taunt monsters when they have low HP and TA-DA. Just avoid Taunting monsters with full HP :p oh but doesnt the cast time slow u down quite a bit? i noticed that there was almost no difference in exp gained wheni used lvl 1 taunt 4hit bs compared to just killing em normally.

Kazegiri 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

oliquido : oh but doesnt the cast time slow u down quite a bit? i noticed that there was almost no difference in exp gained wheni used lvl 1 taunt 4hit bs compared to just killing em normally. As I said, I'm not sure at all about % per hour since I'm not training per se. I'm gonna test it tonight or tomorrow and I'll give you the actual number.

oliquido 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Kazegiri : As I said, I'm not sure at all about % per hour since I'm not training per se. I'm gonna test it tonight or tomorrow and I'll give you the actual number. haha alright.