Lvl30 strafe vs. lvl1 hurricane + critical + sharp eyes?

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thread starter gorbagil Sep 02 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Just out of curiosity, i wanted to find out wat lvl hurricane would beat max strafe apparently, 1hurricane + 1sharp eyes is supposed to beat 30strafe, so i decided to calculate that Here's how i did it: ***the basic facts*** -hurricane shoots 500apm (arrows per min) -strafe shoots 333.333apm (normal spd bow + booster) ***the equations w/o crit/sharp eyes*** -500 arrows*51% (% will be like pts, added up) =25500 -333.333*100%=33333.3 -result atm: 1hurricane=25500pts, 30strafe=33333.3pts ***equations w/crit*** -500 arrows*40% (chance of crit)=200 arrows with crit -333.333*40%=133.3332 w/crit -200 arrows*100 (pts added from each crit) =20000 -133.3332*100=13333.32 -20000+25500 (earlier result) =45500 -13333.32+33333.3=46666.62 -result atm: 1hurricane=45500, 30strafe=46666.62 ***equations w/crit+sharp eyes*** -500 arrows*1% (chance of sharp eyes activating) =5 arrows with se activating -333.333*1%=3.33333 w/se -5 arrows*11 (pts added from each se crit) =55 -3.33333*11=36.66663 -55+45500 (earlier result) =45555 -36.66663+46666.62=46703.28663 ***END RESULT - 1hurricane+20crit+1sharpeyes=45555pts, 30strafe+20crit+1sharpeyes=46703.28663pts*** as u can see, according to my math, 30strafe beats 1hurricane, even with 20crit and 1sharpeyes did i make a mistake? correct me if im wrong pls

hairako 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hurricanes crit formula is different then strafe's

junshun 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Not sure about the math but if you look in the stickied Bowman FAQ guide someone did the exact same math already.

Firestone160 Sep 02 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Strafe dmg per min, lvl20 crit: 83 1/3 * (400+(4*0.4*100)) = 46667% Hurricane dmg per min, lvl20 crit: 500 * (51+(0.4*100)) = 45500% Strafe dmg per min, lvl20 crit + lvl1 SE: 83 1/3 * (400+(4*0.41*211) = 62170% Hurricane dmg per min, lvl20 crit + lvl1 SE: 500 * (51+(0.41*211) = 68755% Yay hurricane wins! ~Took 2 mins to calculate, may be in sticky too. I think some of your calcs are flawed.~ Ah I see the bad mistake. When you get lvl1 SE along with max crit, the crit's dmg and crit's activation are added up: Crit chance with max crit, lvl1 SE: 40+1 =41% Crit dmg with max crit, lvl1 SE: 100+111%=211%

CtrlPlusZ 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hairako : hurricanes crit formula is different then strafe's No it isn't. ._. OT: SE stacks with all Crits, so with lv 1 SE, you have a 41% chance of critical hit with +211% to the skill's base %. That's where your calculation went wrong, I believe.

Kevvl Sep 02 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Check the guides before making a thread.

RandomOverlord 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Simple way. Strafe: 100% + 100%-crit x 4 = 800%, if SE is added, take 800% x 1.4 = [1120 + 800] = 1920% Hurricane lv1: 51% + 100%-crit = 151% x 8 = 1208%, if SE is added, 1208 x 1.4 = [1691.2 + 1208] = 2899.2% p/s

Kevvl 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

RandomOverlord : Simple way. Strafe: 100% + 100%-crit x 4 = 800%, if SE is added, take 800% x 1.4 = [1120 + 800] = 1920% Hurricane lv1: 51% + 100%-crit = 151% x 8 = 1208%, if SE is added, 1208 x 1.4 = [1691.2 + 1208] = 2899.2% p/s Too bad everything about the math you just did is wrong.

mitun733 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hurricane would be better, because of how it attacks. (one arrow at a time)

Crayola555 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Kevvl : Too bad everything about the math you just did is wrong. His IGN says everything :D

Scavenger90 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

here's what u did wrong: the 1% crit from lvl 1 SE adds to the regular crit u already had, so they don't calculate seperately. next, the damage that SE adds to your regular crit is 100% + w/e % the lvl SE describles. max SE adds 140% on top of your regular crit. so basically u should be calculating hurricane/strafe damage with 41% chance of adding 211% critical damage.

vengeance251 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ahhh... that explains why SE pwns so much... <3

Scavenger90 Sep 02 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

vengeance251 : Ahhh... that explains why SE pwns so much... <3 only for archers and NLs unfortunately. for everyone else, its just a random, albeit happy bonus edit: oh yeah, and also for buccs with stun and TBs.

RandomOverlord 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It's too bad 7/8ths of the kids won't understand google math, since most of them are in grade 8 ~ 10 with teenaged retardism.

Scavenger90 09/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

RandomOverlord : It's too bad 7/8ths of the kids won't understand google math, since most of them are in grade 8 ~ 10 with teenaged retardism. funny generalization. at least kevvl is trying to get them to read.