Str Dit Or Luk Dit Which is stronger?

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thread starter Johnthepony Aug 29 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

im Just Wondering but which one is better? Str dit or luk dit. Pretend its basicly the same stats and same equips So which one would hit higher?

LostAries 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

LostAries: pavchka: "What you're mentioning isn't a LUK Bandit, but a STRless STR Bandit. LUK Bandits don't wear Dragon Khanjars." no. I'm not. if you look at the Horntail pendant and then see what its stats can be if you upgrade it to its max. then a LUK DIT can equip a Dragon Khanjar with no problem. xalex094: Then its not a str bandit. Luk bandit's can't use an HT Pendet for D. Khanjars; The Pendent would not provide enough str unless you raise your base. Please look at the HT Pendant before you try to argue with me.... ok i'll make it simple... T_T HT Pendant gives +7 to all stats... now, if you >>>>>up grade<<<<<<<<<< it! guess what thats 15 x 3... and whats that equal? 45, NOW HERE IS THE KICKER! add a max str zhelm! + 17 str! so... 7+45+17= 69 str... now how much str do we need for the lvl 120 Dragon Khanjar? OH WAIT 75... T_T we atr at 69 with the HT Pendant+ zhelm... nuff said...

xYunho 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

With the funds luk will be stronger at first and str will catch up in mid 3rd job and get stronger in 4th job. It also depends on the ap distribution, the str bandit should have lowest base str possible along with dex base same goes for luk without the str.

Paradox808 Aug 29 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dude you can only upgrade a ht pendant once O_o the +3 ones came into creation due to the hammer, and nexon just patched those. so the only HT pendants anywhere are +22 all stats.

Celeriter Aug 29 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It really depends a lot on whether or not you have a Khanjar and other good equips. 120+, the STR dit will usually win because of the 15 atk bonus provided by the Dragon Khanjar. Also isn't this the hundred millionth thread like this? Also STR bandits have cooler daggers in the higher levels except for the DT being infinitely cooler than AB.

0BEY 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

STR> Luk in the Longer Lvls. Especially if you have a nice Atk Dkhanjar.

LostAries 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok. even with that fix... that's still 54 str you wouldn't need out of the 75... so LUK DITs would still win in dmg

shanlan Aug 29 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It's leaning towards Str Shadower as more items are released. HT Pendant, Aura rings, Glasses, Belt, 2nd Pendant slot... all these items that improves Luk Shadower's strength gives Str as well, so the amount of AP you need to sacrifice to weld Dragon Khanjar reduces. After lvl 120, adding Str to gain extra weapon attack becomes the cheaper way to get stronger. However, all this could change if 2nd Pendant slot does not allow wearing HTP and MoN at the same time. If Str Shadower are forced to switch to MoN+MoN then there will be more to discuss.

space77788 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

LostAries : LostAries: pavchka: "What you're mentioning isn't a LUK Bandit, but a STRless STR Bandit. LUK Bandits don't wear Dragon Khanjars." no. I'm not. if you look at the Horntail pendant and then see what its stats can be if you upgrade it to its max. then a LUK DIT can equip a Dragon Khanjar with no problem. xalex094: Then its not a str bandit. Luk bandit's can't use an HT Pendet for D. Khanjars; The Pendent would not provide enough str unless you raise your base. Please look at the HT Pendant before you try to argue with me.... ok i'll make it simple... T_T HT Pendant gives +7 to all stats... now, if you >>>>>up grade<<<<<<<<<< it! guess what thats 15 x 3... and whats that equal? 45, NOW HERE IS THE KICKER! add a max str zhelm! + 17 str! so... 7+45+17= 69 str... now how much str do we need for the lvl 120 Dragon Khanjar? OH WAIT 75... T_T we atr at 69 with the HT Pendant+ zhelm... nuff said... I'm going to have to ask where the hell you got the three upgrades for HT necklace. As of now, HT necklaces can only go up one upgrade. So that pretty much made your argument null. :/

ArkaDraik 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Shouldny any dit that equips a khanjar/d khanjar be considered a str dit and not a luk dit, since theyre using a str based equip...

tyrant2900 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

as everything goes it depends on funding if they both have the same funding a str dit could be equal or better then a luk dit because str daggers start out with more attack so a str dagger thats above can beat an avg luk dagger by a lot, in the end given the same funding i think a str dit would win out due to kanjars and dragon kanjars requiring str and thus being way cheaper then a regular theif shield scrolled for attack and way cheaper then a common shield scrolled for attack.

LuklessFlame 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Besides, who would even use HT Pendants aside from Mages. MoN are better, the 10 attack is much more beneficial especially now that HT Pendants got patched, and that 10 attack is worth putting more into dex/str instead of capping earlier. By a long shot.

xIdentity 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

In 1st/2nd job, luk dits. In 3rd job, it gets closer. It depends how well-built the str bandit's AP and equips were done. In 4th job, it's usually the str bandit.

shanlan 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

LuklessFlame : Besides, who would even use HT Pendants aside from Mages. MoN are better, the 10 attack is much more beneficial especially now that HT Pendants got patched, and that 10 attack is worth putting more into dex/str instead of capping earlier. By a long shot. While that's true after lvl 150 ~ 160, there are 2 more reasons: 1) HTP > MoN at all levels with apple 2) HTP gives 4% ~ 6% more actual miss rate than MoN, which improves Shadower's DPM as a close combat character

dexlesh0b0 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

shanlan : It's leaning towards Str Shadower as more items are released. HT Pendant, Aura rings, Glasses, Belt, 2nd Pendant slot... all these items that improves Luk Shadower's strength gives Str as well, so the amount of AP you need to sacrifice to weld Dragon Khanjar reduces. After lvl 120, adding Str to gain extra weapon attack becomes the cheaper way to get stronger. However, all this could change if 2nd Pendant slot does not allow wearing HTP and MoN at the same time. If Str Shadower are forced to switch to MoN+MoN then there will be more to discuss. Maybe I'm severely mistaken, but can't you only equip one pendant at a time? o-O Or maybe I've been doing something wrong...

shanlan 08/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

dexlesh0b0 : Maybe I'm severely mistaken, but can't you only equip one pendant at a time? o-O Or maybe I've been doing something wrong... There's a CS item that allows you to wear another Pendant for 30 days. It was added in data this week but not released in CS yet. More info: http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1590157 http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1590524 http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1590199