Wind Archer: Strafe or Transform?

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thread starter Jamajax Aug 22 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Kay I've looked at some guides and they both say to max the transform skills first. But I can't see why to do this. At max, strafe does a total of 400% and the single enemy transform skill deals 1050%. Might appear that the transform skill is best, but I was think it's not worth it for the slow attack speed and the fact you have to wait for a minute cooldown time. I'll be usiung arrow rain at typhons for 8x, and probably solo newties, squids, sharks or something like that for 9x. Hurricane at lv100. I can max strafe by level 88, then start on puppet. I was also considering only maxing the multiple enemy transform aattack because WA's don't have a long range mob attack. I'm wondering what everyone else is planning on doing and if anyone could point me in one direction or another.

AltairHawk 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No, the single enemy Tranfrom attack is far better than Strafe. Just get 1 Strafe.

LPfan1 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I can hit 15k w/ 1 transform and 1 wind shot at lv72. Strafe only does me 10k max. This includes only using warrior exilers and on WR

Jamajax 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

But with the transform cooldown you should measure damage across 3 minutes. I think. Soo wouldn't strafe's speed give it an advantage?

Takeback3r 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Jamajax : Soo wouldn't strafe's speed give it an advantage? No.

sleepyxdude 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Strafe gets replaced by hurricane later on. Waste of points

TobiasBlack 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

strafe is replaced by magnum shot (via transform), hurricane, andis only good for finishing off mobs that arrow rain doesnt kill.

Emuburger Aug 22 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Takeback3r : No. Proof time! Critical adds 100% damage at a 40% rate, so it adds 40% damage on average. 1v1 Strafe level 1 Damage: (71% + 40%)*4 = 444% on average Time: 720ms or .72 seconds Damage/second: 616.67% Strafe level 20 Damage: (100% + 40%)*4 = 560% on average note that this isn't much higher than level 1 strafe Time: 720ms or .72 seconds Damage/second: 777.78% Wind Shot level 20 Damage: (350% + 40%)*3 = 1170% on average Time: 1110ms or 1.11 seconds Damage/second: 1054.05% note that this is nearly double Strafe's damage per second And as for the "you're only in Transform 2/3 of the time" argument... All Strafe, no Wind Shot: 1*777.78 = 777.78% damage on average, over time 33% level 1 Strafe, 67% Wind Shot: (0.333*616.67) + (0.667*1054.05) = 908.40% damage on average, over time

ShatterCastle 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

sleepyxdude : Strafe gets replaced by hurricane later on. Waste of points ^Truth ..even though my Hurricane does 4k max with crit :P

Takeback3r 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Emuburger : Proof time! Critical adds 100% damage at a 40% rate, so it adds 40% damage on average. 1v1 Strafe level 1 Damage: (71% + 40%)*4 = 444% on average Time: 720ms or .72 seconds Damage/second: 616.67% Strafe level 20 Damage: (100% + 40%)*4 = 560% on average note that this isn't much higher than level 1 strafe Time: 720ms or .72 seconds Damage/second: 777.78% Wind Shot level 20 Damage: (350% + 40%)*3 = 1170% on average Time: 1110ms or 1.11 seconds Damage/second: 1054.05% note that this is nearly double Strafe's damage per second And as for the "you're only in Transform half the time" argument... All Strafe, no Wind Shot: 1*777.78 = 777.78% damage on average, over time 50% level 1 Strafe, 50% Wind Shot: (0.5*616.67) + (0.5*1054.05) = 835.35% damage on average, over time 1) Add wind walk in the mix. Wind shot gets better. 2) You're in albatross 2/3rds of the time.

Emuburger 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Takeback3r : 1) Add wind walk in the mix. Wind shot gets better. 2) You're in albatross 2/3rds of the time. orite! Wind Walk takes .24 seconds to cast (assuming it's the same speed as Darksight) and multiplies damage by 1.3. Strafe level 20 Damage: (100% + 40%)*4*1.3 = 728% on average Time: .72 + .24 = .96 seconds Damage/second: 758.33% note that this is actually less than without Wind Walk, so you'd probably just stick with the 777.78% damage per second without it Wind Shot level 20 Damage: (350% + 40%)*3*1.3 = 1521% on average Time: 1.11 + .24 = 1.35 seconds Damage/second: 1126.67% You can imagine this helps the 2/3 ratio thingie too, I'm just too lazy to edit it.

clone4hire 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wow +1000% attack O_O;;; it's a good thing i have SE or we BMs would be extinct rofls.

Jamajax 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

TY maths pro answer person.

killerfan 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

you don't get strafe because you can literally train to 100 off typhons and if you did get strafe you couldn't max all your other attacks

ShatterCastle 08/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

killerfan : you don't get strafe because you can literally train to 100 off typhons and if you did get strafe you couldn't max all your other attacks Wait.. what happens after typhons? I'm bored of em