Dawn Warriors At Zakum.
thread starter BeersAre4Kids Aug 15 2009
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| So do dawn warriors at there maxed lvl (120) get allowed on zruns? Im just curious. |
BeersAre4Kids 08/15/09
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carnagechaos 08/15/09
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 | You people should really keep in mind that due to the DW's lower level, it does less DMG than it would as it's a lower level than Zakum. |
noobpower2 08/15/09
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| BeersAre4Kids : Hmm..How about CWKPQ? cygnus knights cannot cwkpq here |
c0jeffc0 08/15/09
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| noobpower2 : screenshot your level 120 dawn warrior with you saying "hello basilmarket"? my ign is BicardiLemon im the number 6 bellocan dawn warrior my guild is Leechless i have 11 blessing from my ranger KryptoBowman. i cant take screenshots on my net book due to the lack of a scroll lock key but chat me ingame and i promise i will answer and prove that it is me. im on during most pst daytime hours |
Crayola555 08/15/09
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| You can't even Zakum on Cygnus. You need permission from 3rd job NPC, which we can't get 'permission' from. So we can't do it ~_~ |
noobpower2 08/15/09
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| c0jeffc0 : my ign is BicardiLemon im the number 6 bellocan dawn warrior my guild is Leechless i have 11 blessing from my ranger KryptoBowman. i cant take screenshots on my net book due to the lack of a scroll lock key but chat me ingame and i promise i will answer and prove that it is me. im on during most pst daytime hours so much bs in this post. just admit you don't have a 120 dw. |
thebeast2119 08/15/09
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| its not that they cant, its that they are at a dis-advantage because you will lose 20% of your damage due to zakum being lvl140 |
Bountyan 08/16/09
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| Crayola555 : You can't even Zakum on Cygnus. You need permission from 3rd job NPC, which we can't get 'permission' from. So we can't do it ~_~ Yes you can. Tons of Cygnus Knights have already Zak'd before. You just talk to the 3rd job teacher for your class, in a Dawn Warrior's case, Tylus. |
xVillainous 08/16/09
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| Icedfire : why would they? they're weaker than a 130 normal class character, and most zrunners are 140+ except for dk/drks and priest/bishops. WkRequiem : yeah they CAN zrun, but they wont be wanted. since most groups can consist of 14x+ which are stronger then cygnus. If you're making a cygnus to boss you will be dissapointed. I'm sorry, but you're both wrong to a certain extent. For blaze wizards that'd be true, but not for the physically attacking classes, depending on their bless level ; they could be as strong as a level 150+ at 120 with a level 20 bless. Before you try and disprove what i'm saying, think about the rule 5 str = 1 attack. 20 w atk * 5 str/atk = 100 str. 100 str = 20 levels of ap. NOW you add the 70 extra ap = 12 levels of ap. thats 32 levels of ap. so yeah. depending on your bless you'd be stronger than a 130. |
Icedfire 08/16/09
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| carnagechaos : You people should really keep in mind that due to the DW's lower level, it does less DMG than it would as it's a lower level than Zakum. this is what i was getting at. after all modifiers, dawn warriors will lose a set 20% versus zakum, no matter what they do. whatever "advantage" they have over a normal 130 hero is pretty much nulled after this, as the % penalty is after all formulas have been dealt with but before normal DEF is applied. whoever that c0e guy is: just because my main is an archer doesn't mean i dont understand meta-gaming and game mechanics. if you asked me a question about thieves or mages, odds are i could answer it just as well as any person who actually has a 16X of that class. |
BeersAre4Kids 08/16/09
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| Crayola555 : You can't even Zakum on Cygnus. You need permission from 3rd job NPC, which we can't get 'permission' from. So we can't do it ~_~ Wait..I think he's right..Isn't he? O_o" |
gamerrttag Aug 16 2009
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| ok so iam throwing this out here for the idiots, KC about .7x stronger than a normal char at level 70, that being said clearly KC are going to be wanted on boss runs for the damage only and being that there are more people able to reach level 120 than 140+ as an explorer there might be ab uselessness there than bishops and spearmen, this will most likely drive the cost of a Z-helm down with in a few months. even with the SP on a KC going to 5 per level at 70-120 they remain that .7x at 120 compared to a normal explorer. 120KC=134(or higher math might be off) explorer this is based on AP % gap so might be wrong |
Crayola555 08/16/09
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| Bountyan : Yes you can. Tons of Cygnus Knights have already Zak'd before. You just talk to the 3rd job teacher for your class, in a Dawn Warrior's case, Tylus. TO ZAKUM I GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
DawnWarrior 08/16/09
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| A 120 Dawn Warrior can go at zak and be wanted more then alot of 130-140 attackers. Why ? Same AP as lv 134, Sure its still low but they got the skills maxed already Try and find a 134 hero with maxed ACB and brandish + Dmg Bonus. |
Bountyan 08/16/09
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| gamerrttag : ok so iam throwing this out here for the idiots, KC about .7x stronger than a normal char at level 70, that being said clearly KC are going to be wanted on boss runs for the damage only and being that there are more people able to reach level 120 than 140+ as an explorer there might be ab uselessness there than bishops and spearmen, this will most likely drive the cost of a Z-helm down with in a few months. even with the SP on a KC going to 5 per level at 70-120 they remain that .7x at 120 compared to a normal explorer. 120KC=134(or higher math might be off) explorer this is based on AP % gap so might be wrong Think about it. Using Wind Archers = no SE. No SE = less attacking power. Less attack power + the main attackers (Night Walkers) having a 20% damage reduction when you could easily get a lv130+ NL = bad. |
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