When should I go 2h Sword?

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thread starter TehBleach Aug 15 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I have a 4 att 2 str panlid and an 84 att 5 str Glowing Whip. At what lvl will a 2h sword have higher attack and cost less? (So I can sell that Glowing Whip and put the panid back on my dit.)

Phaxen Aug 15 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Never, stay 1h.

junshun 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You should think of switching to 2h at lv 50 getting the Japanese Map. Not sure if my math is right but I think you need around a 77 att to do higher damage.

TehBleach 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

junshun : You should think of switching to 2h at lv 50 getting the Japanese Map. Not sure if my math is right but I think you need around a 77 att to do higher damage. I don't get how a weapon with lower attack (and without shield attack) can do more dmg o.o

Tsukasa 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

TehBleach : I don't get how a weapon with lower attack (and without shield attack) can do more dmg o.o I'm not sure how much lower it is, but it's been proven that 2H Swords are much stronger than 1H Swords even if their W.ATKs are close to each others.

krftw 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

id say lvl would be good

1i14lipb07 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

TehBleach : I don't get how a weapon with lower attack (and without shield attack) can do more dmg o.o Kira's example was, swing a bat with 1 hand, see how hard that hurts. Now swing it with 2 hands. It was along the lines of that, same concept, same point gets across. It's proven that 2h gets a stronger damage formula.

EthanMKIII 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

TehBleach : I don't get how a weapon with lower attack (and without shield attack) can do more dmg o.o the dmg formula for 2handed and 1handed sword is different.

REAL2REEL 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Stay 1 handed. 2 handed is you already messed up your dex so you get enough for stonetooth or if you can manage to get a godly stonetooth. 1 handed's are weaker because they're not suppose to be stronger than 2h's but the range should be somewhat close and if you use 1 handed the speed increases your total damage output. Only go 1 handed if you can get a shield too.

tbird123 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The 2h sword damage formula is different than a 1h sword. Two Handed Sword = [(STR * 4.6 + DEX) / 100] * Weapon Attack One Handed Sword = [(STR * 4.0 + DEX) / 100] * Weapon Attack Frankly, I would NEVER go 1h sword without a 12atk + shield, let alone at 4att shield. But I understand at level 40, since glowing whip has a higher att... WAY higher att than any level 40 2h swords.... Anyways..... I'd replace your glowing whip with an atleast 75atk aluminum bat at level 45. Or a 80atk + Japanese map/Tiger's fang/Lions Fang.

SilverFoxR 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

REAL2REEL : Stay 1 handed. 2 handed is you already messed up your dex so you get enough for stonetooth or if you can manage to get a godly stonetooth. 1 handed's are weaker because they're not suppose to be stronger than 2h's but the range should be somewhat close and if you use 1 handed the speed increases your total damage output. Only go 1 handed if you can get a shield too. "Already messed your DEX"? 'scuse me? Anyways, to answer the TS' question... go 2h and sell the whip. To be honest, a 2-h sword at the same weapon attack will give a higher damage range even with an atk shield. The shield has to be really powerful to even attempt to match... and to be quite frank, yours isn't... not by a longshot. The one issue that has pretty much changed between 1-h and 2-h swords is price - it used to be that 2-h end-game swords were more expensive than a 1-h sword and 12+ atk shield combo... in fact, the long-sought-after Stonetooth was over 500m clean. But when the Gachapon Box events came out, their prices dropped dramaticly, as did 2-h sword prices as a whole. Now, you could get a powerful 2-h sword (including a Stonetooth) for almost half the price of a strong atk shield (as the prices of atk shields went nowhere). Ultimately, you'd need to buy a much better shield than what you have in order to warrant going 1-handed... and to be honest, it's much cheaper to go 2-handed instead and still do very well for yourself.

Munmen 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

SilverFoxR : ... and to be honest, it's much cheaper to go 2-handed instead and still do very well for yourself. Had to cut out that portion =] OT: Personally, I'd go 1 handed until 50, then consider a cheap 2 handed alternative, while switching in between. Unless you have a home-scrolled shield and sword combo that can withstand a 2h attack, it is, as Silver said, cheaper to get along with a mildly scrolled 2h than a shield and sword. Generally speaking, shield and sword combos are meant as end game equipment, as the tremendous funding to provide for an attack that is higher than a 2h at every level would cripple anyone's wallet. Lastly, you can diversify your equipment between the two by using a gently scrolled shield and sword against a clean 2h and see whether you prefer the speed of a 1h or the range of a 2h. Each one has their own ups and downs.

iHiryuu 08/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

SilverFoxR : "Already messed your DEX"? 'scuse me? Anyways, to answer the TS' question... go 2h and sell the whip. To be honest, a 2-h sword at the same weapon attack will give a higher damage range even with an atk shield. The shield has to be really powerful to even attempt to match... and to be quite frank, yours isn't... not by a longshot. The one issue that has pretty much changed between 1-h and 2-h swords is price - it used to be that 2-h end-game swords were more expensive than a 1-h sword and 12+ atk shield combo... in fact, the long-sought-after Stonetooth was over 500m clean. But when the Gachapon Box events came out, their prices dropped dramaticly, as did 2-h sword prices as a whole. Now, you could get a powerful 2-h sword (including a Stonetooth) for almost half the price of a strong atk shield (as the prices of atk shields went nowhere). Ultimately, you'd need to buy a much better shield than what you have in order to warrant going 1-handed... and to be honest, it's much cheaper to go 2-handed instead and still do very well for yourself. This. My Stonetooth used to be like 500m But I got it for 60m on some side FM and smiled on the inside. Sadly a 1h sword CAN be superior.. But even more sadly your shield can't make it superior 2h swords will dominate until you can cough up enough money for a good attack shield. And even after that you could make or buy a Stonetooth that can match up with for potentially less ...well unless you have no-dex. But I still refuse going 1h anyway