How are Stat-Less Jobs Stronger?

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thread starter z00ligator Aug 12 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I just find it weird how people say Dexless, Lukless, Strless etc are stronger than regular stat jobs. Lets say Magicians, 1INT = 1 M.ATK and I have a 95matk Wand but need another 5LUK LUk to wear a 102matk wand. So I spend all the AP I recieve from a level (5 AP) and put it into LUK, So if I used it on INT, then I would gain 5matk but I raised it on LUK and now I can wear the wand which gives me extra 7matk but I used 5 ap onto LUK so that removes 5int/matk seeing as I didnt raise it on INT. So that's +2matk.. and if we keep doing this, we would be stronger but a LUKless would just be wearing equips that doesnt require LUK which means reg/low luk gets more INT/matk in equips. - Pretend as if there's no ele wands..- I used mage since 1int=matk Sorry this might be a bit confusing >__> Didn't know how to type it up so it makes anymore sense..

isayhello 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

strless marksmen are strong as hell.

luckybandit 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

z00ligator : By the way, due to the 25% Magic Reduction of a Bishop equipping an Elemental Wand 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8.. does that mean Reg. Luk > Low Luk > Lukless? lukless bishops will always win easy to achieve lukless doomsday staff 52 from htp + 15 from zhelm + 8 from rings + 4 from base + 1 more from random equip = 80 luk

snakeshield 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Chema : DEXless warrior = MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS Which noob have you seen?

Nesoroth 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Chema : DEXless warrior = MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS This is only a reasonable excuse for someone who doesn't know how to make a dexless warrior, or someone who isn't well-funded. Heck, most of the higher level dexless warriors are able to have enough accuracy to fight Pink Bean.

maricastory 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Chema : DEXless warrior = MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS I have a dexless sader and I hardly miss.

IvaliceMoon 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

For a sin having 25 base dex + stuff for the claws would be cause better mw bonus? Only real reason I see.

dilsl 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

isayhello : strless marksmen are strong as hell. Reverse Black Beauty.

Chema Aug 12 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

snakeshield : Which noob have you seen? Noobs who think they can make one with 300M good thing they give up at lvl 86

TotallyPANTS 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

luckybandit : lukless bishops will always win easy to achieve lukless doomsday staff 52 from htp + 15 from zhelm + 8 from rings + 4 from base + 1 more from random equip = 80 luk You don't even need to sacrifice your int from your earrings. --You have 4 base luk. Not much, but it's something. --You're probably wearing a zhelm. If it's average, it's got 15 luk. You're now up to 19 luk. --Elemental weapons are expensive, as are 52/52/52/52 HT pendants. With Vicious Hammer having been released, you can now acquire a 52-to-all-stat HT pendant. You're now up to 71 luk. Only 9 luk to go until you've got a Doomsday staff in your hands. --Permanent Parachute Shoes. Clean, they'll raise your luk from 71 to 74. If they're Agent Scrolled, you could already have surpassed 80 luk. If not... --Glasses. If they've got at least 1 luk, that'll help you. If they've got 2, that's even better. If they've been chaos scrolled, you're pretty well off.

z00ligator 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

luckybandit : lukless bishops will always win easy to achieve lukless doomsday staff 52 from htp + 15 from zhelm + 8 from rings + 4 from base + 1 more from random equip = 80 luk Oh dam >__>" I have a total of 90 LUk with a base of 74 LUK :[

MorbidMagus Aug 12 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

z00ligator : I just find it weird how people say Dexless, Lukless, Strless etc are stronger than regular stat jobs. Lets say Magicians, 1INT = 1 M.ATK and I have a 95matk Wand but need another 5LUK LUk to wear a 102matk wand. So I spend all the AP I recieve from a level (5 AP) and put it into LUK, So if I used it on INT, then I would gain 5matk but I raised it on LUK and now I can wear the wand which gives me extra 7matk but I used 5 ap onto LUK so that removes 5int/matk seeing as I didnt raise it on INT. So that's +2matk.. and if we keep doing this, we would be stronger but a LUKless would just be wearing equips that doesnt require LUK which means reg/low luk gets more INT/matk in equips. - Pretend as if there's no ele wands..- I used mage since 1int=matk Sorry this might be a bit confusing >__> Didn't know how to type it up so it makes anymore sense.. What wands are you talking about o.O Anyways, going Luckless means More MP, Magic Defense, and Magic attack. If you compared a lvl 120 Luckless with a wooden wand would outdamage a Reg luck 120 with a Dragon Staff, due to the large amounts of Luk you would need. Putting 109 AP into int would give a luckless more magic attack. With Items such as Wisdom Staffs, the power of a luckless becomes even more stronger.

OXcrazysinXD 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

well if you don't know why dexless is stronger for all thief classes then I'd say you fail at maple. statles equips keep getting better and better. for example, it's fairly simple to obtain a 50+ atk skanta. all your equips will support luk instead of trying to fill the gap for the dex. the 125 (+25 base) dex it takes to use a dragon sleve would equal the benefits of about 30 wAtk. its a crazy boost to the atk range of any nl.

z00ligator 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

MorbidMagus : What wands are you talking about o.O Anyways, going Luckless means More MP, Magic Defense, and Magic attack. If you compared a lvl 120 Luckless with a wooden wand would outdamage a Reg luck 120 with a Dragon Staff, due to the large amounts of Luk you would need. Putting 109 AP into int would give a luckless more magic attack. With Items such as Wisdom Staffs, the power of a luckless becomes even more stronger. I don't think there's a point in knowing what wand it is O___O" It won't help/solve/answer anything.

tenebrous 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ltachifire : But what if instead of that, you do 3 luck 2 dex but get equips to fill the luck? Yeah luck equips cost more, but it would still be the same attack right? Yes, but as you said, Luk costs more!

MorbidMagus 08/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

z00ligator : I don't think there's a point in knowing what wand it is O___O" It won't help/solve/answer anything. Im just wondering if those wands are real lol, Im not good with Luck equips under 110, and I answered you question, The luk thats required can be put into int, easily making a Luckless magic attack higher, combined with More MP and Magic Defense, and A Maple/DDS the luckless is much stronger.