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MoN or HT+3?

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thread starter purjo Aug 02 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i just got my HT pendant to +3 but now im unsure what to do. was thinking maybe you people have some advice. i thought a HT+3 with some resets STR->DEX would be a real damage boost, but the differencewas smaller than i thought. the MoN is a 12 attack one. my current base STR is 73 which goes up to 101 with equips AND MW, without MW i cant hold my gun. (the extra 1 is from an aura ring i needed for int reasons a while back) these numbers are assuming i lower my base str so that i have 120 (for reverse gun) with the HT necklace. i dont wanna reset a bunch of STR now, only to have to put it back later (i am not fully decided on this though). current gun is a 101 concerto, which is good, but can probably be replaced with a better attack reverse/timeless sooner or later. they also assume a lvl120 knight of cygnus. with mon / no attack pot my range is now 3692-6692 with HT neck / no attack pot it would be 3686-6665 meaning MoN is slightly better than HT+3 damagewise if i dont use an attack pot i usually use ciders for training and pretty much whenever im not on apple. if i use a cider the range is: MoN 4129-7484 HT 4155-7514 now HT necklace is better, and of course if i use apple this difference is larger: MoN 5877-10652 HT 6033-10911 if this was all there was to it, the choice would be easy. i never do anything without attack pots so HT necklace it is. especially since those 98 extra avoid outweighs the 5 speed/jump and 300 hp/mp from the MoN. but what will happen in the future? at lvl 200 i'll have 55 more AP, making the dex/att ratio favor attack more than it does now. i think you get some +3 att medal at 200 but idk if that makes up for the difference. also what new gear may come out in the future? i'm thinking it is more likely that new att stuff will come out (or i afford) than some really high str/dex stuff. most of the times in boss situations i have echo buff too, but i cant for the life of me figure out if that favors HT or MoN. it raises ones w.att by a percentage i think, and that sorta suggests it favors HT neck but idk. altogether i think i will lower my str and go with the HT necklace, so what i'm hoping for is someone giving me a really good argument on why i should do just that. its hard to say by how much, but i think those extra 98 avoid will affect boat survivability by quite a bit. how would you do? the reset cost isn't really an issue, since i stocked up on some resets during the sale.

iFrancisco 08/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Overall, a very good post but you will probably confuse a large majority of the players here, and even less would be able to give you a reasonable argument haha. I had to run through the same calculations myself (@ Level 200 with MW) and came to the same conclusion that a MoN gives higher base stats, but a HTP wins with attack pots. I think you pretty much have the same thought process as me, in general. While it is true that you do get a 3 attack medal, and your stat/attack ratio increases as you approach 200, also keep in mind that MW30 will eventually be obtained (apparently MSEA is getting it from HT now, but that needs confirmation) and that benefits the HTP even more. Also, as you upgrade your gear more with more attack, that would benefit the HTP more so than the MoN. The avoid comment is important too, as that can mean as much as 5% more avoid (like literally) on most monsters. I say HTP, as that is what I am doing too.

purjo 08/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

thanks. do you really think MW30 will benefit HTP more? i mean MW30 means another 49 or so dex, and more dex should benefit MoN? anyway, thats the answer i wanted. i'll go with the HTP too, and if it turns out i should have gone with the MoN, i wont be alone in my misery.

iFrancisco 08/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

purjo said: "thanks. do you really think MW30 will benefit HTP more? i mean MW30 means another 49 or so dex, and more dex should benefit MoN? anyway, thats the answer i wanted. i'll go with the HTP too, and if it turns out i should have gone with the MoN, i wont be alone in my misery." I think the only way you will regret that if somehow the MoN becomes chaosed or the HTP is 'fixed.' Yes more dex does benefit the MoN, but the point with MW is that the HTP will get MORE from MW (lower base str > more base dex > more dex from MW) compared to the MoN, so it is still a slight bonus. I suppose none of that matters if PB remains the only boss to drop MW30 though...

imaalex 08/03/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT