Corsair and NL

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thread starter bookofheaven Jul 24 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If there were an equal amount of Corsair's and NL's online, who would KS more? The one that KS'es more obviously is more of the noob. I am talking about the average NL and the average Corsair you see a day. /proves the point in this thread with its answer

ChaosKizo 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

sharptipz said: "Well both average, i'd say the corsair would win, there damage is very stable compared to that of a NLs, and to be honest there are very few NLs that can pull off nice damage, I saw a very godly NL at lvl 17x and still had a 10-20% chance that he couldnt two hit kill skeles, and well a corsair at lvl 14x can two hit kill skeles and thats withouth being godly, so imo corsairs win. NLs good for bossing, okay at training." Glad to see a Nightlord admit it. Some Nightlords are still on their high horse that they're the best class. Considering that SE plays a heavy part in their damage ( It really does, they are outdamaged by all the Warrior classes without SE >__>) they won't stand much against a corsair, that doesn't even have crit so SE is worthless to them.

iFIew 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

iRFun said: " Go try killing some bigfoots or HHs. Corsairs always tend to ks you there, mostly in 2xps." I basically train there lols. I get most of my exp from Zak and bigfoot. If I DO get Ksed there, it's usually some hero. But then I borrow my friend's hero and KS their bigfoots after >: (

sharptipz 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah SE really makes a huge difference, and thats why they are chosen for bosses, cause that and apple is really great, so no were not the best, we just fit a role at boss runs, and so do archers for SE, and so do Drks for HB, priests for their supportive skills, and well Hero's are good front row attackers...so you see everyone needs eachother for this to work, so i dont see why a lot of ppl have to bash on other classes, cause honestly w.o every other class coming together, it just wouldnt work.

WetFish 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

My my you children will never give up this fight. Nightlords are a very weak class without apples or SE. Hate to break it to you, but I've been 2 hitting skelegons since 14x. I dont see many NL's who can top that off. And at bosses, anyone who wants to challange me to an anego, is welcome to do so. Maybe then you can put this huge debate to bed.

sharptipz 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Agreed. yeah as i said earlier, it takes a really funded NL to two hit skeles...some cant pull it off till after lvl 17x, but a corsair can do it way earlier in lvl..like you say.

WetFish 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

sharptipz said: "Agreed. yeah as i said earlier, it takes a really funded NL to two hit skeles...some cant pull it off till after lvl 17x, but a corsair can do it way earlier in lvl..like you say." I spend enough of my day listening to all the nightlords on my buddy list rant about how much "stronger" they are than me. Ive threatened to ks alliance members because they wont shut up about it. While levleing this corsair, all I have heard is how weak I am. From bishops, to nightlords, to every single damn class. I never get a break from it.

dalerules91 Jul 24 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ChaosKizo said: " I've played on my friend's NL/APQ mule and you can't throw stars until the end of the flash* jump. Not to mention it only takes about one to get to the monster for either of them. So again, thanks to a higher DPS (Especially since the NL won't have SE) the Corsair would win as they aren't depend on any skill but their own. Edit: meant Flash Jump." I have not gotten a NL or a Corsair up to lvl 120+ before, however I would agree hypothetically that a Corsair would be faster at ksing a NL (coming from a Hermit). But I do not think you have the right to come up with a decision just like that after 'trying' a NL on your friends account. You would have barely any concept of character control and how much more agile a person who has trained a sin/hermit up until level 120 can be. So until you get a make a NL that is over level 120 I and others shouldn't accept your view on NL's. Hypothetically speaking is fine but just don't claim that since you have 'tried' a NL it makes you worthy enough to speak from a NL's perspective.

sharptipz 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

wow, scania is way different from other servers, well mine atleast, cause honestly nobody bashes eachother abt anything...maybe minor things but not to the point were its like "dude sthu before i ks you"..umm and actually corsairs are a beast with SE also, bishops may like NLs over corsairs but thats because they use so much money spamming their ultimates, they actually like "meso up skill" but dont let it get to you, corsairs are a unique class with excellent mob and solo skills. and im more of a mobber type, but also likes to be good at bossing so i went with hero. (ive had many classes >.>)

ikillerbarney 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I remember seeing on youtube a 17x Captain vs 18x NightLord Ks war on the skele map. In the end the captain/corsair won. Not sure if the video is still there. If i can find it ill post a link here.

imaalex 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Corsairs unless our ship breaks which barely happenns but rapid fire is still a great back up skill and we also get a all screen skill 6mobs 5sec cooldown wit server lag its more like 9sec though

MSfanatiq 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

emobunny said: "depends on the monster, map layout, equips, etc if they're were big strong mobs, corsair would probably win. if you're talking about weak/single mobs, nl would win." This, and consider the fact that NL's have Flash Jump and haste giving them faster mobility as for corsairs have to demount ship>recoil shot>Walk>Mount Ship then attack. If a NL and a Corsair we're fighting against a boss tho say for example anego which is easy to pin down, Corsairs would outdamage then.

sharptipz 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Nice iKillerbarney, i dont think ive seen that vid. but yeah if you find, post ^^

Skrato 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ChaosKizo said: " Take into consideration that Corsairs have both a higher DPM and better mob moves... a Corsair would win in both scenarios. And to anyone about to respond about a NL's mobility, it's called dash, wings, and recoil shot." Yes, but if they can both 1hko the nl will win by tons, which is what he was talking about. It's situational.

jxdude2 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ChaosKizo said: " Glad to see a Nightlord admit it. Some Nightlords are still on their high horse that they're the best class. Considering that SE plays a heavy part in their damage ( It really does, they are outdamaged by all the Warrior classes without SE >__>) they won't stand much against a corsair, that doesn't even have crit so SE is worthless to them." @Chaos: I disgree with you about your warrior statement. I out dmged my frend who is a DrK wen he was 128 and i was 121. I've never compared my damage to a hero at my level so i can't say anything about them. Ive only seen 2 palidins in my whole maple career so i really cant say anything about them OT: Its a tough call on who can out KS who... If you take a unfunded NL and a unfunded corsair then the corsair defiantly, but ive out ksed corsairs my lvl. I'd say it greatly depends on the mob, funding, and how you handle your character. /my2cents

Korean 07/24/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It will all change once Cygnus knights are here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD0kb-Nq2DU