The Luk Vs. The LukLess.

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thread starter l2ondy Jul 11 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So lets say I wanted to make a Mage class. Any of them, people will say go for Lukless because it is better overall. It's better even when your unfunded. I can confirm that but I'm not sure how it would be after level 120+ If you were to start of from scratch would it be better to go Lukless then after start adding luk so later on you can equip those Magician clothing/weapons. See, I asked this girl why she wasn't Lukless and she said they sucked later on in fourth job. I was unsure about it. If I were to make a Lukless mage I doubt it would be as good as Reg Luk Mage class with a good scrolled Wand/Staff that needs LUK compared to a Lukless mage without any Elemental wands and whatnot. The main focus is weapons because I won't be having a magic attack glove or INT hat or magic attack shield and stuff. Probably might be able to get a Zhelm but not for a while....a really long while. I doubt I could afford a 130 EWand even by selling leech it will take forever. x_X Will the Lukless be better if it had a level 64 weapon that is average? Not godly scrolled but not poorly neither. Vs a Reg Luk mage with the possibilities of a Timeless weapon depending how hard it is to get that. Would it matter if it was an I/L AM or Bishop? The Lukless would always win damage wise? Someone else told me that Lukless have to have billions of Mesos to be godly compared to a good Reg Luk Mage. I believe an AM told me that. Is it worth it in the long run? Having new equipment is pretty fun and considering how long to K.O a monster later on it might all be the same right? For example. A Lukless 2 hit K.Oing Skeles or a TT monster depending which area gives the best EXP Or the REG Luk with average equips as well as 2 Hit K.Oing monsters. What am I in for? What way is the best choice/possibility? I don't know about selling leech but that doesn't seem that fun to me unless your in need of the mesos.

AcesHye Jul 11 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If you can get godly enough luk equips then low-luk would be your best bet because of the 163 ele staves, but you'd need great amounts of luk. Lukless is best if your unfunded because more int can help you do higher damage without investing in good equips EDIT: Take into consideration that lukless also gives you more MP.

xJunKun 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Luckless are expensive to train but.. you can train on higher lv monsters at lower lvs But Reg luk Mean eggh not that much money to be spend

nxymickeeeez 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

well.. somtimes i wish i went back to low luk.... but now since the damage reduction came out i kinda relay wanted to go low luk... but anyways. if u can get a 100+magic att wisdom/shine than yeh we can overpower. i have about 830 magic att for a lvl 128 lukless bishop. its not great. i shuold have around 900 at my level. but yeh i am using a 96/8 umbrella. while all the other mage classes use a 140+magic att ele >.> lukless bishops are stuck with wisdom/shine wands now. haah. so im aimin for a 100+magic att one.

CelesticBash 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

xJunKun said: "Luckless are expensive to train but.. you can train on higher lv monsters at lower lvs But Reg luk Mean eggh not that much money to be spend" They are they exact same to train o...o But yeah, Luckless will always beat normal luck if you are using the same amount of money. A 100m Luckless will be better than a 100m Luck mage. A 1b Luckless will be better than a 1b Luck mage. So on and so forth, also you are just naturally stronger from day one, its alot easier to grind and you get to go to faster exp- earning mobs quicker.

AcesHye 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

xJunKun said: "Luckless are expensive to train but.. you can train on higher lv monsters at lower lvs But Reg luk Mean eggh not that much money to be spend" How is reg luck cheaper? You need to spend more to get higher damage. Its like dexless sins, they do better than equally funded reg dex because of the great amount of luk, lukless mages do better because of the great amount of int, that is the purpose of a lukless mage, therefore, a lukless is cheaper. Lukless mages also have more capability to fund their character, and CAN be godlier, but do more damage by default, funding or not.

tugboats Jul 11 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If your funding is 0 mesos, lukless wins from level 1 to 200. If your funding is 100mil, lukless wins from level 1 to 200. If your funding is every single meso in the server, lukless wins from level 1 to 200. Just get a level 70 elemental weapon if you can't afford the level 130 ones. (Or a level 64 wand/staff if you are a priest) I have a level 185 lukless mage and no normal luk at 185 can hit as high as me.

l2ondy 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well, I have a REG LUK Priest level 72 but I think with the 6x LUK idk if that would be good to continue or just start over.

LetItRock 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I dont even look at your reasoning or statement. I vote Lukless each and every time.

Przndude Jul 11 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

When I started MapleStory, (v .2x) there was no such thing as a lukless mage or a dexless sin, etc etc. Those were the good times.

TheBigNoob 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lukless will ALWAYS prevail since Int > M. Att

orangeking11 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Przndude said: "When I started MapleStory, (v .2x) there was no such thing as a lukless mage or a dexless sin, etc etc. Those were the good times." Good times? That's your opinion. Even though statless builds are usually associated with damage whores, don't forget that they allow people to enjoy the classes they are and giving them an easier time attaining the damage they like (unless you're a Strless Archer/Gunner, then it gets tougher quick). I like that. xD

AcesHye 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Przndude said: "When I started MapleStory, (v .2x) there was no such thing as a lukless mage or a dexless sin, etc etc. Those were the good times." Don't start your false sense of "good times" please....

tugboats 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

l2ondy said: "Well, I have a REG LUK Priest level 72 but I think with the 6x LUK idk if that would be good to continue or just start over." Ok, follow this series of questions: 1. Do you care about having good damage? If yes, restart and make lukless. If no, continue to #2. 2. Do you want to be able be able to earn more money in the future by selling leech at higher prices at lower levels? If yes, restart and make lukless. If no, continue to #3. 3. Do you want more MP than normal mages? If yes, restart and make lukless. If no, continue to #4. 4. Do you want to spend more mesos for less m.atk boost? Then go ahead and be normal luk. To put it bluntly, normal luk mages are a bad choice unless you don't give a crap about your damage/leveling speed/saving mesos.

l2ondy 07/11/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Alright. Thanks guys.