Wind Shot vs. Strafe

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thread starter RaveInferno Jul 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Skill Name Base Damage +40% avg crit +30% Wind Walk Shots/Min Total DPM Strafe 100% * 4 140% 170% 83 (Normal + Booster) 56,667% Strafe 100% * 4 140% 170% 91 (Fast+ Booster) 61,880% Wind Shot 350% * 3 390% 420% 48 (1.26 seconds/shot) 60,480% I just thought you guys should know, with a fast bow, max Strafe will out damage max Wind Shot for all of you Wind Archer hopefuls out there.

coolsmiley1 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I think the main point of nexon making KoC is for players to have fun w/ it. I'd rather use wind shot because I've used strafe a lot already and I'm bored of it, and wind shot looks awesome.

frankli0 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dude Why do you care about damage so much? Its just a game. I'm making a Wind Breaker for the fun of it. Not for the OH LETS SEE WHO CAN DO THE MOST DAMAGE. If you play maplestory just for the damage and killing monsters then its not even worthwhile. I just want to try out the new class and skills cause it sounds interesting and fun.

Kevvl 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'd love to see you spam Strafe while using Wind Walk.

jdpwnsu 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

frankli0 said: "Dude Why do you care about damage so much? Its just a game. I'm making a Wind Breaker for the fun of it. Not for the OH LETS SEE WHO CAN DO THE MOST DAMAGE. If you play maplestory just for the damage and killing monsters then its not even worthwhile. I just want to try out the new class and skills cause it sounds interesting and fun." lol it seems like you're making a bigger deal out of this than he is. he is just giving us some info on these 2 comparable skills, he isnt bashing either of the classes.

RaveInferno 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

jdpwnsu said: "lol it seems like you're making a bigger deal out of this than he is. he is just giving us some info on these 2 comparable skills, he isnt bashing either of the classes." Thank you! The research into the data presented here was meant to disprove all of these paranoid "The Cygnus Knights are going to get new overpowered skills!", and I thought it was interesting that this skill had such a long delay (1.26 seconds inbetween Wind Shots) that the 350% base damage per-shot was actually negated. Frankly, I was surprised, and I was feeling generous with my discovery. Like I said in the first post, "I just thought you guys should know." Kevvl said: "I'd love to see you spam Strafe while using Wind Walk" Well.... I can't say I didn't think of that. But the casting time for Wind Walk is supposedly negligible. So, *Insert Wind Walk+Strafe macro here.* and problem solved?

Kevvl Jul 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

RaveInferno said: "Thank you! The research into the data presented here was meant to disprove all of these paranoid "The Cygnus Knights are going to get new overpowered skills!", and I thought it was interesting that this skill had such a long delay (1.26 seconds inbetween Wind Shots) that the 350% base damage per-shot was actually negated. Frankly, I was surprised, and I was feeling generous with my discovery. Like I said in the first post, "I just thought you guys should know."Well.... I can't say I didn't think of that. But the casting time for Wind Walk is supposedly negligible. So, *Insert Wind Walk+Strafe macro here.* and problem solved?" It's more about damage-per-hit thanks to Wind-Walk. Besides, most Windbreakers really train with AR until they get Hurricane. 30 points for Strafe is a huge waste considering the limited SP in 3rd job.

MisterVixx 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wind walker or whatever it's called looks boring. |:

Peechyboy69 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Not only that, there is more chance of Critical shot occuring.

Efemera Jul 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Multiply Wind Shot by 1.3 because Wind Walk doesn't add any time to it when used with Wind Shot o_o Oh I see what you did. Wind Walk is 1.3x, not +30%. It takes as much time as Dark Sight with Strafe. Wind Shot is as fast, it just prevents you from attacking for 1.26 seconds, and Wind Walk isn't an attack, so it doesn't slow Wind Shot at all.

RaveInferno 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Efemera said: "Multiply Wind Shot by 1.3 because Wind Walk doesn't add any time to it when used with Wind Shot o_o Oh I see what you did. Wind Walk is 1.3x, not +30%. It takes as much time as Dark Sight with Strafe. Wind Shot is as fast, it just prevents you from attacking for 1.26 seconds, and Wind Walk isn't an attack, so it doesn't slow Wind Shot at all." The 130% bonus for Wind Walk is treated just like 100% bonus from critical. (If you ignore Arrow Bomb for the moment) It's +30% base, not +30% total. Also, I didn't calculate any time interference for Wind Walk anyway, so yea. I am aware that there is no charge time for Wind Shot, that's not the 1.26 seconds. 1.26 seconds is the amount of time that you cannot perform any actions after you use Wind Shot. This includes using Wind Shot again.

ishootyou 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

RaveInferno said: "The 130% bonus for Wind Walk is treated just like 100% bonus from critical. (If you ignore Arrow Bomb for the moment) It's +30% base, not +30% total. Also, I didn't calculate any time interference for Wind Walk anyway, so yea. I am aware that there is no charge time for Wind Shot, that's not the 1.26 seconds. 1.26 seconds is the amount of time that you cannot perform any actions after you use Wind Shot. This includes using Wind Shot again." you mean before. you have to stand still for 1.26 seconds before the arrows are launched.

RaveInferno 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ishootyou said: "you mean before. you have to stand still for 1.26 seconds before the arrows are launched." ....yea, definitely before. o_o

Efemera Jul 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

RaveInferno said: "The 130% bonus for Wind Walk is treated just like 100% bonus from critical. (If you ignore Arrow Bomb for the moment) It's +30% base, not +30% total. Also, I didn't calculate any time interference for Wind Walk anyway, so yea. I am aware that there is no charge time for Wind Shot, that's not the 1.26 seconds. 1.26 seconds is the amount of time that you cannot perform any actions after you use Wind Shot. This includes using Wind Shot again." Uh, no, it's a multiplier. There are no additive damage boosts in this game besides critical. And Wind Walk does slow Strafe down.

dattyboy4916 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

but of equal levels the wind archer'll win... 6 ap a level T_T you'd have to compare a 200 to a 120 :x minus the wep atk diffs and timeless whatever >.<