I'm Tired of Hearing it

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thread starter WolfJounin Jul 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

"Whoever becomes a WK/Paladins worked harder than Crusaders/Dragon Knights", "Whoever chose WK/Paladin chose originality", "Who cares about DPS, it's about originality"... no. Just no. WK/Paladins are not freaking harder than Crusaders/Dragon Knights. Pages aren't really much harder, as you can buy make-shift warrior pills (weaker than the pots from NLC, but MUCH more affordable). Personally, it was a very freaking easy achievement going from 1-104 for me, and the only reason why 104-125 was difficult was because there were NO training areas for WK at that point other than Grim Phantom Watches and DPTs. There are Wyverns, Bains, and a whole bunch of new areas now, so I don't understand how it is more difficult. More over, Crusaders have a more difficult time than WK from level 75 to the later 80's, and no leeching does not count, as that makes NO DIFFERENCE among leveling to any class. Dragon Knights can't solo very effectively without burning pots, or just training slow, unlike WK who can function in both solo and party effectively (though not always wanted in parties at certain points). In my opinion, they are the easiest class to raise, the only problem being whether or not you want very limited training areas, and being godly at a handful of bosses while not at the rest. Originality? Seriously? So what? Elements? Mages have elements. Oh, you mean the only warrior who uses elements? Correct me if I'm wrong, but does any other warrior than Crusaders use combos? No, I don't think so. I guess that makes them pretty original too, huh? Oh, what was that? That only leaves 1 more warrior, and they have dragons in their attacks and don't use combos or elements. I guess that means ALL THREE WARRIORS, or you know what? EVERY class in maplestory original. So if you're going to be a Page/White Knight/Paladin JUST to be original, don't bother. Be one because you think they're strong, you like the idea of using elements with a sword/blunt weapon, or just think their whole concept is awesome. Since when aren't WK/Paladins about DPS? "Oh, well Heroes are stronger. And DK are sought after for HB"... ignorance at it's best. WK/Paladins are significantly stronger than Crusaders/Heroes at enemies/bosses who are weak to their elements, and on top of that, since Threaten now works on bosses, it makes a dramatic difference in damage for anyone in the party, and ESPECIALLY for faster attacking classes like Night Lords, Bowmasters, and Corsairs. Sure, there aren't many bosses with elemental weaknesses as opposed to ones who don't have a weakness, but the fact of the matter is, Paladins dominate at those few, more so than any Hero, or even other class with elements could ever hope to. My point being, most people consider Paladins weak because they look at their strength at the things they aren't really effective at. I won't argue that a Hero is superior to a Paladin against 3 enemies, but a Paladin is superior at 1 on 1 and larger mobs when they have an elemental advan

zyxfba 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The sage has spoken.

MegaCamm 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Deep man deep. But on topic that is a valid point. I dont see why people complain about 2nd job warriors. They are 90% identical in training and skills.

DosE 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hah well put.

gandalf0213 Jul 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thank you, WolfJounin. You and Senyain are my role models for Warriors. *Awaits for Phaxen to see this*, I want to see his reply lol.

AznBlackRose 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Somewhat agree and somewhat don't =P

JohnPwnsJ00 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Where's senyain? O_O We need some backup, just incase.

SlyOne 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well done. You've inspired me by just saying they have easier training now

tabasco2500 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

they arent as common thats what people mean when they say "original"

CorsairKen 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm sick of hearing "insert class" pride also. I make all 3 warriors and I don't feel any pride in them, I just like being a warrior. I've seen many sader jerks, wk jerks, and even dragon knight jerks, along with several nice ones. There's no point in pride over your class, your class is what fits you as a Maple Story Player.

one23abc 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

But at most training places you get mobs of around 3

WolfJounin Jul 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

one23abc said: "But at most training places you get mobs of around 3" At the higher platforms usually yes, but the bottom platform usually has bigger mobs (I don't know if this applies to most of the newer maps that have been added since I was gone, but it was accurate for practically every map before I quit). On horizontal maps also, you can just rush or regularly mob in the 3rd job the enemies. Training aside, bosses are usually only 1 enemy, unless you refer to Ergoth, in which WK/Paladins are worse for another reason altogether, and the other being Pink Bean, who receivers half damage from neutral.

Applesnacks 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I thought people chose uniqueness, not originatlity o_O

cookie4mesos Jul 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

WolfJounin said: "At the higher platforms usually yes, but the bottom platform usually has bigger mobs (I don't know if this applies to most of the newer maps that have been added since I was gone, but it was accurate for practically every map before I quit). On horizontal maps also, you can just rush or regularly mob in the 3rd job the enemies." This applies to Ludi Dungeon maps, however, newer ones are more... constant, I suppose, but it depends on the individual map, more specifically, the layout, and monsters that spawn there. Well, the Skele Map (one with only Skelesauruses, and Skelegons, I believe), has a somewhat mobbier bottom platform, from what I've heard. Not sure about the mini-dungeon. Newts are just... weird. Wyverns though, from what I've seen, are in mobs of 1-3 on pretty much every platform. So, as I stated in the last paragraph... it depends on the layout and mobs.

Austeezy 07/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

zyxfba said: "The sage has spoken." Yes....I chose Sader cuz I thought they were pure awesome and I loved the idea =]