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thread starter Tensaza Jul 05 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well I was sitting here thinking, ok in a couple of days I'll reach Level 70 and with that, 3rd Job Advancement. So I drew up my skill build through till Level 120. I'll start by putting this below - Level 70 - 1 Point Strafe (1) Level 71 - 1 Point Puppet (1) 1 Point Blizzard (1) 1 Point Mortal Blow (1) Level 72 - 2 Points Strafe (3) 1 Point Puppet (2) Level 73 - 2 Points Strafe (5) 1 Point Puppet (3) Level 74 - 2 Points Puppet (5) 1 Point Golden Eagle (1) Level 75 - 2 Points Strafe (7) 1 Point Golden Eagle (2) Level 76 - 3 Points Strafe (10) Level 77 - 2 Points Strafe (12) 1 Point Golden Eagle (3) Level 78 - 2 Points Strafe (14) 1 Point Golden Eagle (4) Level 79 - 3 Points Strafe (17) Level 80 - 3 Points Strafe (20) Level 81 - 2 Points Strafe (22) 1 Point Golden Eagle (5) Level 82 - 2 Points Strafe (24) 1 Point Golden Eagle (6) Level 83 - 2 Points Strafe (26) 1 Point Golden Eagle (7) Level 84 - 2 Points Strafe (28) 1 Point Golden Eagle (8) Level 85 - 2 Points Strafe (MAX) 1 Point Golden Eagle (9) Level 86 - 2 Points Golden Eagle (11) 1 Point Puppet (6) Level 87 - 3 Points Golden Eagle (14) Level 88 - 3 Points Golden Eagle (17) Level 89 - 3 Points Golden Eagle (20) Level 90 - 2 Points Golden Eagle (22) 1 Point Puppet (7) Level 91 - 2 Points Golden Eagle (24) 1 Point Puppet (8) Level 92 - 2 Points Golden Eagle (26) 1 Point Puppet (9) Level 93 - 2 Points Golden Eagle (28) 1 Point Puppet (10) Level 94 - 2 Points Golden Eagle (MAX) 1 Point Puppet (11) Level 95 - 2 Points Puppet (13) 1 Point Mortal Blow (2) Level 96 - 2 Points Puppet (15) 1 Point Mortal Blow (3) Level 97 - 2 Points Puppet (17) 1 Point Mortal Blow (4) Level 98 - 3 Points Puppet (MAX) Level 99 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (5) 1 Point Blizzard (2) 1 Point Thurst (1) Level 100 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (6) 1 Point Blizzard (3) 1 Point Thurst (2) Level 101 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (7) 1 Point Blizzard (4) 1 Point Thurst (3) Level 102 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (8) 1 Point Blizzard (5) 1 Point Thurst (4) Level 103 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (9) 1 Point Blizzard (6) 1 Point Thurst (5) Level 104 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (10) 1 Point Blizzard (7) 1 Point Thurst (6) Level 105 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (11) 1 Point Blizzard (8) 1 Point Thurst (7) Level 106 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (12) 1 Point Blizzard (9) 1 Point Thurst (8) Level 107 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (13) 1 Point Blizzard (10) 1 Point Thurst (9) Level 108 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (14) 1 Point Blizzard (11) 1 Point Thurst (10) Level 109 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (15) 1 Point Blizzard (12) 1 Point Thurst (11) Level 110 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (16) 1 Point Blizzard (13) 1 Point Thurst (12) Level 111 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (17) 1 Point Blizzard (14) 1 Point Thurst (13) Level 112 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (18) 1 Point Blizzard (15) 1 Point Thurst (14) Level 113 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (19) 1 Point Blizzard (16) 1 Point Thurst (15) Level 114 - 1 Point Mortal Blow (MAX) 1 Point Blizzard (17) 1 Point Thurst (16) Level 115 - 2 Points Blizzard (19) 1 Point Thrust (17) Level 116 - 2 Points Blizzard

spiritrival 07/05/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It's best to work on one skill at a time. That way, you aren't left with a bunch of weak useless skills, but rather a few strong ones. I'm pretty sure Arrow Eruption is still used in 4th job. It has no minimum range, which is its biggest advantage. It's also stronger than Iron Arrow, since Iron Arrow's damage decreases as it passes through monsters.

MisterBernie 07/05/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

AE is alot better than maxing thrust, a useless skill.

killerfan 07/05/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

you should just max one attack at a time and AE is a very useful skill to have

GeckoMafia 07/05/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

what's the point of maxing blizz if it's not an attack skill? it's just used for the freeze part. Stop it at 21

MisterBernie 07/05/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Build you should do, Max everything , blizz 21, thrust 0.

Tensaza 07/06/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thanks everybody at least I know what I'm doing now, don't want to nerf another character. (Screwed up a Marauder so bad it was unplayable)

Desiderata03 07/06/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yea, this is a pretty bad build, tbph. First of all, AE is 1000x more useful than max bliz or max thrust, and considerably more useful than max eagle and MB too. It shouldn't be given the shaft like that. Bliz shouldn't have any more or less than 21 points. Most people get somewhere between 15 and 21 eagle, as 15 is the requirement for frostprey, and most don't get more than 21 because frostprey almost completely replaces it at lvl 1. Thrust after lvl 10 is iffy, as it doesn't do a whole lot and you might already be at max speed anyway. As for your order, there's no reason to get 1 MB so early. Don't get any MB until you're getting AE. Also, don't split build like that. Adding 2 to one skill and 1 to another just gives you an assortment of bad skills.

Kevvl 07/06/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Find the person who told you AE was useless, and shoot him, aya. If that person was me (because I hardly use AE while training, only questing) then I'll go get my gun.

skilman254 07/06/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Kevvl said: "Find the person who told you AE was useless, and shoot him, aya. If that person was me (because I hardly use AE while training, only questing) then I'll go get my gun." qft. Yes a sniper with no ae is a sniper with no hope, to put it very bluntly. Trust me, Ae is still as useful in 4th job. it enables you to snipe froma safe spot w/o worrying of the monster magic attacks

chaoskid00 Jul 06 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sorry to sound mean, but I gotta say this build fails hard. Hawk does not become really useful until you can middle at jr newties good, which is around 95-100+. AE>Strafe in terms of training, but its your choice on which to do. Mixing 2 skills in maxing them is a stupid idea, its best to stick with one skill at a time. Maxed blizzard sucks, lv21 is the best level to keep it at for the 3 second freeze. It is not an attack skill. Going without AE is a horrible idea, AE is still usable in 4th job, and gives you some of the best solo %/hr places in 3rd job. Maxed thrust is not too worth it, get it to 9-10 for the 18-20 speed then just use simple equips to get 140 speed. Hawk is also not really worth maxing, lv21 is 95% chance to stun and hawk becomes useless in most training spots when hitting 120. Your end build should look something like this. Maxed Strafe Maxed AE Maxed Puppet Lv21 Blizzard Lv21 Hawk 9-20 Thrust (20 thrust=9 MB) 9-20 MB

naruto1233 07/06/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

chaoskid00 said: "Sorry to sound mean, but I gotta say this build fails hard. Hawk does not become really useful until you can middle at jr newties good, which is around 95-100+. AE>Strafe in terms of training, but its your choice on which to do. Mixing 2 skills in maxing them is a stupid idea, its best to stick with one skill at a time. Maxed blizzard sucks, lv21 is the best level to keep it at for the 3 second freeze. It is not an attack skill. Going without AE is a horrible idea, AE is still usable in 4th job, and gives you some of the best solo %/hr places in 3rd job. Maxed thrust is not too worth it, get it to 9-10 for the 18-20 speed then just use simple equips to get 140 speed. Hawk is also not really worth maxing, lv21 is 95% chance to stun and hawk becomes useless in most training spots when hitting 120. Your end build should look something like this. Maxed Strafe Maxed AE Maxed Puppet Lv21 Blizzard Lv21 Hawk 9-20 Thrust (20 thrust=9 MB) 9-20 MB" It think you mean Lv21 Eagle, and mortal blow is a useful skill to max, more so than a boost of 13 speed. It is handy because of its use at skeles. What I would do is, if you want to put more skill points on thrust, take 6 out of eagle and put it onto thrust, since eagle gets completely replaced by frostprey once you hit level 120.

Revenant 07/06/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well, this is my take on it, which is similar to the others. I don't believe you need puppet so early as you have in your build. Rather than those points of puppet, you should put points into MB to get at least one point of Arrow Eruption for a bit. As already mentioned, Golden Eagle isn't too useful in your 70s. However, I personally rose puppet to 5 in my late 70s just to get one point in eagle for looks =p MAXING eagle is not necessary. At 21 the stun rate is at 95%, which is sufficient for us snipers. You CAN get it to 30, but 21 does its job well, from personal experience. Arrow Eruption varies from location to location. We use it exclusively to train at places like Typhons, or use it as one of the last lines of defense should we be mobbed. It is a vital skill for snipers and I'm positive we'll be using it fourth job as well. This is also why I suggest you get 1 point of AE early so you can understand the skill's uses. Blizzard, no questions asked. It should be no higher than 21, as that's when freezing lasts 3 seconds. Those 9 points can be used for more important things than a small increase in damage for a skill that you don't use as an offensive attack. Blizzard is used to hold enemies in position for strafes or iron arrow. It also helps save pots. Don't feel bad that your build has a lot of criticism from us. At least you know we're trying to help you =]

arsenalchamp 07/06/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

no typhoos for you (NO SOUP FOR YOU) lol

Tensaza 07/06/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Revenant said: "Don't feel bad that your build has a lot of criticism from us. At least you know we're trying to help you =]" Oh no, I don't feel bad lol. I came and posted it for a reason. I've drawn up a new skill build based on your guys suggestions with the overall goal of no thrust and 21 blizzard. Appreciate the help everyone. :D