Why is elemental composition considered useless?

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thread starter Phera Jul 04 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well, i've been hearing about how comp is useless i'm wondering why and if i should max it as a pizard.

EmpireSun Jul 04 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well, I'm not going to put a single point into it.. =/ Paralyze pretty much is 100% better. I'm putting the spare points into partial resistance. ^_^ (This will make misting at Priests of Oblivion less painful.) Well, it's a good skill, but it doesn't have a "decent purpose". After you get paralyze, you will stop using it... =/ I don't even use Fire Arrow anymore at skeles because magic claw is faster. EDIT: My point is: It will get immediately replaced after 4th job. (unless you go ultimate training first) Or maybe you wanna go for comp build O_o....which is..ermmm wrong? EDIT: Also, getting maxed comp means leaving booster at lvl 11 and PT at lvl 1.....Many archmages can stand 11 booster...but not me. O_O I prefer having 200 secs of medi and booster, than 110 of booster and 200 of medi.

AngelxHoly 07/04/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well, for I/L's it's sufficient I guess because people hate TS nowadays (i sort of see why).

zai1310 Jul 05 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Its for bossing and its strong

DragonzSage 07/04/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

EmpireSun said: "Well, I'm not going to put a single point into it.. =/ Paralyze pretty much is 100% better. I'm putting the spare points into partial resistance. ^_^ (This will make misting at Priests of Oblivion less painful.) Well, it's a good skill, but it doesn't have a "decent purpose". After you get paralyze, you will stop using it... =/ I don't even use Fire Arrow anymore at skeles because magic claw is faster. EDIT: My point is: It will get immediately replaced after 4th job. (unless you go ultimate training first) Unless you wanna go for comp build O_o....which is..ermmm wrong?" Yeah but unless you plan on getting to 4th job super fast it can still be useful. You can say that with a lot of skills. Why get explosion if you can get big bang, why get I/L comp or TS when you can get CL, Why get magic claw when you can get FA or Cold Beam. Also why get partial resistance when that can dampen Mana Reflections effect?

yoman77 07/04/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Comp isnt effected by ele weps

EmpireSun Jul 04 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

DragonzSage said: " Yeah but unless you plan on getting to 4th job super fast it can still be useful. You can say that with a lot of skills. Why get explosion if you can get big bang, why get I/L comp or TS when you can get CL, Why get magic claw when you can get FA or Cold Beam. Also why get partial resistance when that can dampen Mana Reflections effect?" But a reg f/p build is getting mist, seal, booster, explo maxed ASAP. There's no need for comp and if you follow the build, you will end up getting comp at lvl 110. And it's useless because you don't need it, you are basically just misting skeles for another 10 levels. Why get magic claw when you can get FA?....erm..well good luck getting to lvl 30 w/o it. O_O EDIT: It took me 4 years to get to lvl 110...I don't think I'm going fast O_O, yet I still think comp sucks.

Phera 07/04/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well as I said i'm a pizard so should i max PR or Comp?

EmpireSun Jul 04 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Phera said: "Well as I said i'm a pizard so should i max PR or Comp?" Maxed Comp: 11 booster and 1 PR No Comp: 20 booster and 20 PR Maxed Booster with Comp: 20 booster 21 comp (which has 134 base atk and 61% chance on poisoning...which sucks ^_^) You choose...but I prefer not getting comp. EDIT: another downside that yoman22 stated: not affected by ele weapons.

Inferno 07/04/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I would get PR > Comp. Now TT is out, PR is another reason how comp fails for F/P. Paralyze is a WAYYYYYYY better skill and is our most useful skill for bossing. Fire arrow, with an ele wand 1 also outdamages comp.

Foxtrots 07/04/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't think PR really protects against the Oblivion monsters... fire monsters seem to rarely use fire element attacks, even if they appear to be fire element. I don't know, I'm pretty sure I took as much damage as everyone else, but then again I was quite tired when I did it. xD (btw i didnt get comp and 100% happy with my choice)

JimmySplorgen 07/04/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. Paralyze is better 2. Fire arrow, with an elemental wand is better. 3. It doesn't work with elemental wands 4. You're better off maxing booster, and putting your remaining third job points in comp, instead of maxing comp and putting the rest into booster, because you'll use booster forever. You'll use comp, maybe, twice.

Inferno 07/04/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Why not max everything and leave comp at 1...

evensteven94 07/05/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

as stated above comp is useless, its has a 30 matk boost which is good but does not increase its likeliness to be maxed significantly. paralyze renders it useless as soon as you get it, depending where you dicide to get it, it can be usefull for a while before paralze eats it up. The Anwser to your question is... I like pie xP and mc is gonna be fairly useless unless you max it right away but then you wont have as much booster so max booster instead

Phera 07/05/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dam i think i just owned my char by making it a pizard -_- no bossing skills till 4th job