Can corsairs do really well at all bosses just like NL's?

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thread starter 5o4B0i Jun 06 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Can corsairs do really well at all bosses just like NL's?(or better?) like are they good at HT, CWKPQ and Zak? i want to know before i decide to make one

orangeking11 06/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pun: Lol Actually, those "I am d4xl3ss h3rmit, I r pwnz0r" threads get chewed up fast in our section. xD

darkmirage 06/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lol oj, you missed out on the CWK 2 weeks in a row now >=(

orangeking11 06/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

darkmirage said: "lol oj, you missed out on the CWK 2 weeks in a row now >=(" I'm on break. My work schedule is crazy, but it's solid money. Plus my 7 year anniversarry of going out with my gf is in 2 days. Need time to prepare something. Lol xD

darkmirage 06/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lolll gratz on that, and dude if you got money mail some over, I just got into a car accident </3 I need a new ride!

orangeking11 06/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

darkmirage said: "lolll gratz on that, and dude if you got money mail some over, I just got into a car accident </3 I need a new ride!" x_o; Lol At least you lived. And I need my moneyssss. xD

darkmirage 06/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I need your moneyssss too =D

singhninja2 Jun 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

darkmirage said: " Let me start off by saying thanks to the others for clarifying to this fool who obviously can't read at above an elementary school level. Second your spelling still sucks, once again funner is not a word, and opions? lol Did I make any mention that gunners move faster and jump higher? YOU must be on crack to think that I said that when I didn't write anywhere in my post about moving speed or jumping height. Also what I listed about the bosses were to answer the original thread topic. So now that you have failed, please go cry back in your "I am d4xl3ss h3rmit, I r pwnz0r threads" in the hermit section." u said mobilaty so i thought u meant gunenrs are fasters then sins and i dont care about my spelling and i seemed like u were showing off since u listed all those bosses and quoted me shouldve said @ts w/e ur still nibz EDIT: learn to drive befor u coment on my spelling atleast i can see where im going XD

darkmirage Jun 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

singhninja2 said: " u said mobilaty so i thought u meant gunenrs are fasters then sins and i dont care about my spelling and i seemed like u were showing off since u listed all those bosses and quoted me shouldve said @ts w/e ur still nibz EDIT: learn to drive befor u coment on my spelling atleast i can see where im going XD" Should I even continue to rip on you? LOL It seems that you typing alone is enough to embarass yourself. nibz? lolll please try to come to Broa and see if I'm nib and I have every right to comment on your piss poor ability to spell like a normal human being. If you can't spell go back to school and learn your a,b,c's and if you can't then go be a bum xD Edit: Sorry you seem to be the only one who didn't understand the parts about the boss and had to have someone point it out to you, yet it was obvious to the people that pointed it out to you. Says AND shows something eh? lol fool, start going to school don't quit just cause you didn't know the letters past "c..."

Efemera 06/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

orangeking11 said: " Quantity of Atks =/= Quantity of Fun. It's all about playing style. Not everyone is easily woo'ed by having more attacks. xD" You can't have a very varied playing style with one move, can you? :x From 1st to 4th job you play a sin by jumping back and forth using one move. Avenger doesn't really make much of a difference in how you kill, because it still basically has the same range - whatever's in front of you 400 px minus your punching range - it just hits a mob instead of one monster. There's only one strategy to kill monsters. Your choices when you see a monster are, should I use "TT, or TT?" I'm not easily wooed by having a lot of speed and FJ.

orangeking11 Jun 09 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Efemera said: " You can't have a very varied playing style with one move, can you? :x From 1st to 4th job you play a sin by jumping back and forth using one move. Avenger doesn't really make much of a difference in how you kill, because it still basically has the same range - whatever's in front of you 400 px minus your punching range - it just hits a mob instead of one monster. There's only one strategy to kill monsters. Your choices when you see a monster are, should I use "TT, or TT?" I'm not easily wooed by having a lot of speed and FJ." When I play, it's a lot more than "TT/TT?" in my mind. IMO spamming Avenger and spamming TT are really different. If you spam TT, IMO it's a simple mow over. But if ya spam Avenger, you need more hits to kill the entire mob vs just 1 monster and mobs = more attacks coming your way. So to me, it's more than just 'do I wanna hit one monster, or the mob?', it's also 'do I wanna avoid the attacks coming from 1 monster or the barrage from a mob?' and 'do I have the right amount of space to pick one off at a time, or do I have to Avenger tank 'em?'. And I always gotta factor in Storm for mob management. Storm to me can be the dif. between whether my next move being L7 or Avenger. But everyone thinks a bit differently. xD Edit: You also have the Venom factor and Drain and Taunt to figure into the fight too to get the most out of it IMO. xD

duskreaper 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

NL training looks a lot more interesting to me with Avenger/venom like that one time temple video where he was mobbing em up with storm then venoming. Some nub NLs just give the impression of TT spam. I was training at peak with some NL once and he was trying to show off his TT numbers to me and he ended up getting mobbed and punching.

frei468 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lalaland said: "If u have a corsair and went to a zak run...then u'll know it actually isnt that good for a corsair.... constant 1/1...magic attacks... It's super confusing after a while when it keep 1/1 every 2 sec I'd say once we get maxed cannon, rapid fire and bulleye then we'll really be a boss machine...cannon for high dmg...rapid fire isnt good compare to cannon but it's still decent" I agree with this. With my limited experience at zak with my corsair, it does get confusing when zak spams a few 1/1 attacks. I think I broke my ship 4 times on the first one, but it was almost broken for the first time, and I did use it during the arms. Second time, I just ignored using ship during the arms. Only broke once on the body, but I disconnected near the middle of the third body. I probably would have broken the ship once more if I would have finished. It is quite an experience none the less. I think I need a bit more experience with zak before I can say any more. CWPQ is pretty easy. I don't even get hit by the mage unless it moves forward. I think I just tanked the thief boss. Broke my ship on the archer. It is hard for me to concentrate on some of the archers attacks. The stun can get you every now and then, which is annoying. I'm sure I will get used to it sometime. Again, I haven't done many of these either. I think I have been to four and disconnected on the mage boss for one of them. I have also be told by a 178 or 179 nl buddy of mine that he thinks corsairs will start replacing nl's once the corsairs get to a high enough level. Though that may only be his opinion, it is nice to know that people do see the potential of corsairs.

orangeking11 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

frei468 said: " I have also be told by a 178 or 179 nl buddy of mine that he thinks corsairs will start replacing nl's once the corsairs get to a high enough level. Though that may only be his opinion, it is nice to know that people do see the potential of corsairs." I agree, but it depends on the Zak group as a whole. Most groups around take 15-18 mins and they think about maximizing profits, and 15 minute Apples from Alch per NL pretty much covers that (with Alch, I get Apples before any other non-NL attacker in the squad). But as groups get much stronger and can shorten runs enough so that Alch doesn't factor in as much, then for sure it gives Corsairs a definite advantage. Only thing is that people tend to shift to 1 party attack runs at that point for bigger splits. xD

frei468 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

orangeking11 said: " I agree, but it depends on the Zak group as a whole. Most groups around take 15-18 mins and they think about maximizing profits, and 15 minute Apples from Alch per NL pretty much covers that (with Alch, I get Apples before any other non-NL attacker in the squad). But as groups get much stronger and can shorten runs enough so that Alch doesn't factor in as much, then for sure it gives Corsairs a definite advantage. Only thing is that people tend to shift to 1 party attack runs at that point for bigger splits. xD" This is definitely true. I have seen many one party zak runs that take a little over 15 minutes because I run on buyers for a friend. It is usually 3 nl's and a bm as the main attackers. I also think nl's have a bit of an advantage with shadow shifter. Avoiding the stun at zak is important. Even though just avoiding those falling pillars would be the easiest, but sometimes it hits the entire side. Although I'm not 100% sure how much this affects it, nl's might have a slight advantage on the speed runs. Seeing you have to use bullseye on each body, it is a little bit of wasted time. I'm not sure how long it takes for a corsair to make up the damage they are losing there. Seeing the bodies don't last 30 seconds, it would have to be a short amount of time. Though I think I would find it amusing to see a lot of corsairs all throwing an egg at zak at the same time.

duskreaper 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Corsairs may lose a few seconds with homing beacon but doesn't that make it so zak spawn doesn't interfere with cannon? So NLs might have to avenger the mob or the TT will hit the spawn instead of zak, while a corsair keeps shooting at zak.