Shadower's WEAK?

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thread starter iFakez May 27 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok so basically i was wondering why are people saying CB's and shadower's are weak? Look i can understand in a way why someone would want a NL or Bowmaster in a horntail run , or something that special. I understand Shadowers are not long range and are not the fastest in the game. However, I do not believe that they are weaker. I am a lvl125 Dexless Shadowers with relatively good items and so far i cannot say i have seen that many people around my lvl out Dmg me besides an arch mage or bishop. Shadowers have multiple skills that are very helpful and strong. For example BS, it is fast in its own way has a great range and deals a lot of Dmg. Now i know that it does have a bit of a delay but hey that is changing (cause i am sure it hasn't yet, since most shadowers i know say they have yet to feel the difference) and even if it stayed BS can be used in a great deal of combos. And what about assassinate? I have seen videos of the thing do 99.999 Dmg 4 times! sure it is 12 seconds of waiting but it is once again part of a great combo, you can go on dark sight walk to the boss or monster use assassinate then BS and bam! owned. Now i do not think we are weak, i don't think we are slow either. In fact i think Shadowers/CBs are one of the best all around jobs in maple. We might not be the best at one thing, but we sure as hell are great in a lot. So if you got a reason why Shadowers are weak or whatever please explain. =| Also who cares if people dont want us in their party? we are made for one thing KILL. we are the Tanks of the Ninja world. We can take alot of dmg while being stealthy and quick. =] and sure we require money for a few buffs and atks but thats cuz cbs are pimps :D

Immortal666 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

too bad we arent playing kms right? xD well, i dont really know how fast shadowers can train, but i can tell you one thing for sure. Shadowers are one of the worst bossers. Only mages kill bosses slower. They have a high survivability, which is equal to warriors, but the damage is just horrible...

XcscX 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Love4Romance said: " link lol weak? that damage was 5 levels ago. I've also upgraded lots of my equips too. MY assassinate can do 180k+ now and the 4th hit is always max damage on monsters that has enough hp to survive the first 3 hits." Thats some nice damage man. Mind telling me what your equips are?

iFakez 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Csenger said: "We do have the lowest dps though. We may have plenty of other good stuff, but we're still weak in damage. I have more than 15 bil of equips and the only chars of same level or above I outdamaged are mages and a buccaneer. So don't try to say otherwise about damage. Assassinate is only for people admiring high numbers, it's really not that efficient most of the time. Ask the ss poster above how often he really does that while training or ht/zaking. It's just showing off. Face it, there's no point on boosting your own pride. Like your character, I like my shadower too, but stop saying they're strong damage-wise. It's false and the only thing you'll get is higher prices on our scrolls. Brag about how we can train fast with taunt and good equips instead, at least that's true." well i never said or thought we were the strongest or anything like that. but from what i see everyday and videos and such i can tell u we are not the weakest. and ok so we arent that needed for ht runs or zruns, yet you got great shadowers like Hitsumaru taking zak on his own, and from the close range classes you got warrior which are slower than us , brawlers that after their glitch is over eh ur gonna have alot fo quitters with their 1-2second delays for everything. thats why i believe we are not the best but i believe we are best all around. we are just a good balance.

masteromg 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

shadowers suck restart if you wanna boss ./end thread

Love4Romance 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I agree with Csenger, Assassinate is really only a show off move cause its horrible to train with. Our damage isn't that bad as to what a lot of peolpe think. Training wise, I'd have to say we're one of the fastest second to mages of course. Due to the fact that we can train with taunt because of our mob skills. Sure we may not be all that wanted for bosses but who cares, its about enjoying your class thats important. I'd rather have less people play this class rather than have more people cause all that does is make everything more expensive. We don't specialize in one specific thing but we're good in every situation. Don't let numbers influence how you look at a class.

punkrock101 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Love4Romance said: "Sure we may not be all that wanted for bosses but who cares, its about enjoying your class thats important. I'd rather have less people play this class rather than have more people cause all that does is make everything more expensive. We don't specialize in one specific thing but we're good in every situation. Don't let numbers influence how you look at a class." +5 respect. You summed it up quite nicely. Good on you.

zidanethief 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Shadower is a nice job. But it's not worth it these days >_>

pavchka 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Love4Romance said: "I agree with Csenger, Assassinate is really only a show off move cause its horrible to train with. Our damage isn't that bad as to what a lot of peolpe think. Training wise, I'd have to say we're one of the fastest second to mages of course. Due to the fact that we can train with taunt because of our mob skills. Sure we may not be all that wanted for bosses but who cares, its about enjoying your class thats important. I'd rather have less people play this class rather than have more people cause all that does is make everything more expensive. We don't specialize in one specific thing but we're good in every situation. Don't let numbers influence how you look at a class." *hugs you and gets cut to pieces by all the pointy things* Different classes have different purposes. Remember that. If you wish to boss go make a second character. Would the game not be boring if every class was all-round? *hugs Touzokuou and gets cut to more pieces due to even more pointy things*

TheGale 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You'd think more people would appreciate Smoke Shell in Boss Runs.

Tabukko May 27 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Every class has it's own advantages and disadvantages, why some people struggle to see this is beyond me. And I hate how people try to compare other classes, for example shadower vs bowmaster, its stupid you can't compare them. Why don't you compare a warrior to a warrior and a shadower to a shadower. Concentrate on your own characters instead of others. Small rant done....

Love4Romance 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sure we might not be amazing at bosses but guys, we too can solo bosses just like every other class out there. Look at pap, zak, and pianus. We're able to solo those as well as any other classes. Sure it might take a bit longer but we're still able to do it. If all you care about is bossing in a game, what fun is there. Look at the class as a whole and compare the pros vs cons. Or don't even do that, just enjoy the freaking class. lol.

Joey060 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I dont think Shadowers are weak even thoguh i dont have one :p. but the next charecter im making is a Bandit because i love there Savage Blow :3 and im sure it gets alot better later on, my only opinion on the Rouge - Shadowers is that before you get your Bandit class i think a Dagger Rouge is really weak O.o at lvl 21 i went to KPQ with it and it took me like 4 100MP Pots to kill 1 Aligator there, as for my sins it didnt take long at all.

dashx4 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

masteromg said: "shadowers suck restart if you wanna boss ./end thread" Unfortunately, bossing isn't the point of MMORPGs.. it's just part of it. I've bossed way too much on my hero and I can tell you right now that it gets boring. But then again, training is too. Having a wide range of skill sets makes it a little less boring and my CB does a very good job at it.

xofantasia 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Love4Romance said: "Sure we might not be amazing at bosses but guys, we too can solo bosses just like every other class out there. Look at pap, zak, and pianus. We're able to solo those as well as any other classes. Sure it might take a bit longer but we're still able to do it. If all you care about is bossing in a game, what fun is there. Look at the class as a whole and compare the pros vs cons. Or don't even do that, just enjoy the freaking class. lol." You have no idea how right you are xD

LoveIsMIA 05/27/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

pfft, ya, thats just y they can hit 800k dmg in 2 seconds.