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thread starter OmGwDfBbQ May 18 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hello Basilmarket! Here are warnings before you read this thing... 1. I see people think Christianity is BS but here, evidence. 2. This is evidence, im not saying that it is RIGHT 3. Im not trying to cause a flame war, im just explaining why this religion (my religion) could be right. Here we go. There are two other "Universal Laws" that we see demonstrated in everything we examine in the world around us. 1. There is no new mass/energy coming into existence anywhere in the universe, and every bit of that original mass/energy is still here. 2. Every time something happens (an event takes place), some of the energy becomes unavailable. The First Law tells us that matter (mass/energy) can be changed, but can neither be created nor destroyed. The Second Law tells us that all phenomena (mass/energy) continually proceed to lower levels of usefulness. In simple terms, every cause must be at least as great as the effect that it produces�and will, in reality, produce an effect that is less than the cause. That is, any effect must have a greater cause. When this universal law is traced backwards, one is faced again with the possibility that there is an ongoing chain of ever-decreasing effects, resulting from an infinite chain of nonprimary ever-increasing causes. However, what appears more probable is the existence of an uncaused Source, an omnipotent, omniscient, eternal, and Primary, First Cause. Here is another one. Bacterial flagellum. This is a flagellum (tail-like) to make a bacteria move around. BUT here a problem. According to darwin's evolution theory, when a body part is not needed, it is discarded and not passed to the next generation. So what does this has to do? Bacterial flagellum consists of 3 MAIN parts and about 40 or more lesser parts. these 3 main DONT WORK if one is malfunctioning. ie: Rat trap, if even a piece is missing, the whole rat trap wont work. so, according to Darwin's theory, how did this kind of bacteria end up having a flagellum? They dont know. Evolution theory is little by little... parts are added to the body. But if one part of the flagellum is added, is useless. so it should be discarded, so where did this flagellum come from? My answer: Intelligent design. Another: For DNA and proteins to function properly, a barrier must surround these molecules to prevent unwanted reactions with the chemicals in the environment. As expected, DNA has the information to maintain this barrier, the cell membrane, and proteins provide the catalyst for carrying out the reactions necessary for building and maintaining this barrier. Information in DNA also constructs the cell membrane so that it selects substances useful to the cell and protects against those that will cause harm. These three factors, DNA information, protein catalysts (enzymes), and a protective environment, are all required simultaneously for life to exist as cells. Cells also represent the very existence of physical life, an observation that led to the Cell Theory: All li

ObviousTroll 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

OmGwDfBbQ said: " Your questions doesnt even make sense. u say homosexual people can reproduce. thats where you are messed up comes in." Okay. Homosexual people still want babies sometimes, so they go to SPERM BANKS. DING! REPRODUCTION. Also, you can still be ra*ed when you're homosexual.

MisterVixx 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

MapleMan10 said: "in 9th grade should i understand this? i only understand like 3/5 of this" I'm in grade 8. I understand most of it. Stopsleepinginclasspl0x

Jinxiy 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

jimmeh said: " You cannot prove God. ./christianitycrumbles" So does other major religions. Religion is built up on faith, not on what is visible.

MapleMan10 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

MisterVixx said: " I'm in grade 8. I understand most of it. Stopsleepinginclasspl0x" i dont sleep i doodle!

OmGwDfBbQ 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ObviousTroll said: " Okay. Homosexual people still want babies sometimes, so they go to SPERM BANKS. DING! REPRODUCTION. Also, you can still be ______when you're homosexual." You are just desperate to prove me wrong. If a man wants babies, the wont produce any. UNLESS YOUR NORMAL /endofstory

taotapp 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The problem with the intelligent design theory is that it pretty much kills discussion. Your section about bacterial flagellum is a pretty good example of this. With science, the answer is "I don't know, so let's find out." With intelligent design, the answer is just "intelligent design."

MapleMan10 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

OmGwDfBbQ said: " You are just desperate to prove me wrong. If a man wants babies, the wont produce any. UNLESS YOUR NORMAL /endofstory" you dont make a thread like this if you cant handle people like us......

jimmeh 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

OmGwDfBbQ said: " so If evolution is wrong, how did life come into existence? we just exist? @ above, you know what I mean by saying homosexual people cant reproduce. If a man and a man has relationships, they cannot create new life. happy? more detailed?" According to the biography of Jesus. God waved his wand and out popped Adam&Eve.

ObviousTroll 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

OmGwDfBbQ said: " You are just desperate to prove me wrong. If a man wants babies, the wont produce any. UNLESS YOUR NORMAL /endofstory" HOLY CRAP! YOU JUST DON'T GET IT. Okay, even if someone is homosexual, they still want babies to care with their significant other. What you're saying is complete BS and assumed. Do you remember that governor who announced that he was gay but still had a wife and kids?

OmGwDfBbQ May 18 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

jimmeh said: " According to the biography of Jesus. God waved his wand and out popped Adam&Eve." Yes, and according to evolution, A lightning came and popped out a bacteria = u. @ above Im saying Men and men cannot PRODUCE KIDS ok? you want more specific? IM NOT SAYING HOMOSEXUAL PEOPLE CANNOT have a WIFE AND KIDS they just CANT PRODUCE.

jimmeh 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

OmGwDfBbQ said: " Yes, and according to evolution, A lightning came and popped out a bacteria = u." Lightning is more believable than magic.

OmGwDfBbQ 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

jimmeh said: " Lightning is more believable than magic." no but the problem is the transition.

ObviousTroll May 18 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

OmGwDfBbQ said: " Yes, and according to evolution, A lightning came and popped out a bacteria = u. @ above Im saying Men and men cannot PRODUCE KIDS ok? you want more specific? IM NOT SAYING HOMOSEXUAL PEOPLE CANNOT have a WIFE AND KIDS they just CANT PRODUCE." God's purpose was to create heterosexual people, not homosexual, That is why they cannot reproduce. and... I dont think Everyone will become homosexual... well I hope.

Q9R42 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well, i stopped reading when you said that you dont claim that your evidence to be right.. Because evidence, to me, should be correct, if not, it's called "Speculation" or any other word similar to that.

Jinxiy 05/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

In hopes to end this flame war of ignorance I'm going to say a few things. >Religion isn't the denial of evolution. While they may be some religions that do deny evolution; Christianity does not. >Man+Man=/= Baby(Same for woman).. HOWEVER, there are still surrogates, and sperm banks. While sperm banks are a pretty new concept in human history, it does allow two homosexual people to have a child. Surrogate mothers have been used throughout history. Not so much for gay couples, but for safety and sterile women to still be able to raise a child(the man impregnates the surrogate btw. It wasn't too uncommon; since they only worried about the males genes being passed on.) >Being sterile and unable to procreate is different than being homosexual. You can't compare these.