Opinions and Critiques on this Outlaw build.

thread starter RoyalAsassin May 10 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Level 70 : 1 Burst Fire (1) Level 71 : 3 Burst Fire (4) Level 72 : 3 Burst Fire (7) Level 73 : 3 Burst Fire (10) Level 74 : 3 Burst Fire (13) Level 75 : 3 Burst Fire (16) Level 76 : 3 Burst Fire (19) Level 77 : 1 Burst Fire (20) *Maxed*; 2 Ice Splitter (2) Level 78 : 3 Ice Splitter (5) Level 79 : 3 Ice Splitter (8) Level 80 : 3 Ice Splitter (11) Level 81 : 3 Ice Splitter (14) Level 82 : 3 Ice Splitter (17) Level 83 : 3 Ice Splitter (20) Level 84 : 3 Ice Splitter (23) Level 85 : 2 Ice Splitter (25) *Stop*; 1 Octopus (1) Level 86 : 3 Octopus (4) Level 87 : 3 Octopus (7) Level 88 : 3 Octopus (10) Level 89 : 3 Octopus (13) Level 90 : 3 Octopus (16) Level 91 : 3 Octopus (19) Level 92 : 2 Octopus (21) *Stop*; 1 Flamethrower (1) Level 93 : 3 Flamethrower (4) Level 94 : 3 Flamethrower (7) Level 95 : 3 Flamethrower (10) Level 96 : 3 Flamethrower (13) Level 97 : 3 Flamethrower (16) Level 98 : 3 Flamethrower (19) Level 99 : 3 Flamethrower (22) Level 100 : 3 Flamethrower (25) *Stop* Level 101 : 3 Gaviota (3) Level 102 : 3 Gaviota (6) Level 103 : 3 Gaviota (9) Level 104 : 3 Gaviota (12) Level 105 : 3 Gaviota (15) *Maxed* Level 106 : 1 Ice Splitter (26) ; 1 Flamethrower (26) ; 1 Octopus (22) Level 107 : 1 Ice Splitter (27) ; 1 Flamethrower (27) ; 1 Octopus (23) Level 108 : 1 Ice Splitter (28) *Maxed*; 1 Flamethrower (28) *Maxed*; 1 Octopus (24) Level 109 : 3 Octopus (27) Level 110 : 3 Octopus (30) *Maxed* Level 111 : 3 Homing Beacon (3) Level 112 : 3 Homing Beacon (6) Level 113 : 3 Homing Beacon (9) Level 114 : 3 Homing Beacon (12) Level 115 : 3 Homing Beacon (15) Level 116 : 3 Homing Beacon (18) Level 117 : 3 Homing Beacon (21) Level 118 : 3 Homing Beacon (24) Level 119 : 3 Homing Beacon (27) Level 120 : 3 Homing Beacon (30) *Maxed* \Ending Skills// 20 Burst Fire 28 Ice Splitter 28 Flamethrower 30 Octopus 15 Gaviota 30 Homing Beacon =================================================== I was looking around for guides and I came upon Kasuhitomi's Outlaw build. It looked interesting and so I am planning to follow it. However, my build isn't exactly the same as Kasuhitomi. I just wanted some opinions and critiques on my Outlaw build and how the points is distributed throughout the levels. The other thought that has come to my mind is that, what do Outlaws really think about maxing Flamethrower (as in putting more then 11 points into it)? There has been a lot of mixed thoughts on Flamethrower and it's usefulness. Because of that, I just wanted some opinions on the Corsairs that have not added more then 11 points into Flamethrower and the Corsairs that have added more then 11 points into Flamethrower. If the build seems fine to all of you guys, then I will be following it.

FroznSolid 05/10/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

why would you put an extra 2 in ice, and remove 2 from fire? damage from fire 30 and ice 26 would be greater then fire 28 and ice 28. other then that, it sounds good. are you following the kents training build? and i'd say fire is worth it, since it allows you to enjoy training (somewhat) mobbing, then just sniping at newties for 30 lv's.

5INFUl May 10 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I would do Gaviota a bit later, since from what I hear it's not all that useful. Aside from that, this seems like a typical newtie-ish based build. Looks fine to me. And imo flamethrower is a lot more useful than what people make it out to be. If you're trapped in a mob FT has no minimum range, so it can be pretty helpful (so can ice splitter but it's 30% weaker than FT). FT also does burn damage, which I think is hella cool. xD Edit: yeah what the guy above me said. Just get splitter over 25 so it can freeze the max amount of monsters.

FroznSolid 05/10/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

more opinion from me: -get lv 1 Gavito at lv 71. Many people have alot of fun messing around with it/just normal training. Since its dmg at lv 1 is 50% of its dmg at lv 30, getting it to lv 1 is worthwhile. -after you get ice splitter to 26, then max out Octopus, then max out Flame thrower. I do'nt get why you put them off till the end and then put 1 point at a lv. Just max them out ASAP so they can be useful to you training. Like after you have flame thrower, Octopi won't be very helpful (except in making mobs), but when you only have burst fire, it is very useful.

RoyalAsassin May 10 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FroznSolid said: "more opinion from me: -get lv 1 Gavito at lv 71. Many people have alot of fun messing around with it/just normal training. Since its dmg at lv 1 is 50% of its dmg at lv 30, getting it to lv 1 is worthwhile. -after you get ice splitter to 26, then max out Octopus, then max out Flame thrower. I do'nt get why you put them off till the end and then put 1 point at a lv. Just max them out ASAP so they can be useful to you training. Like after you have flame thrower, Octopi won't be very helpful (except in making mobs), but when you only have burst fire, it is very useful." Thanks for the input from both of you guys! I was looking at Hidden-Street and I thought IS hits mobs of 6 at Level 25 so I left it at 25, but I guess Hidden-Street's description is wrong again? Then again, I'm already Level 77 so I haven't added any points into any other skills except Burst Fire and Ice Splitter. I guess this means, after getting Ice Splitter to 26, get 1 Gaviota, and start maxing out Octopus? Edit: Well, here it is, 30FT/26IS. Level 70 : 1 Burst Fire (1) Level 71 : 3 Burst Fire (4) Level 72 : 3 Burst Fire (7) Level 73 : 3 Burst Fire (10) Level 74 : 3 Burst Fire (13) Level 75 : 3 Burst Fire (16) Level 76 : 3 Burst Fire (19) Level 77 : 1 Burst Fire (20) *Maxed*; 2 Ice Splitter (2) Level 78 : 3 Ice Splitter (5) Level 79 : 3 Ice Splitter (8) Level 80 : 3 Ice Splitter (11) Level 81 : 3 Ice Splitter (14) Level 82 : 3 Ice Splitter (17) Level 83 : 3 Ice Splitter (20) Level 84 : 3 Ice Splitter (23) Level 85 : 3 Ice Splitter (26) *Maxed* Level 86 : 2 Octopus (2) ; 1 Gaviota (1) *Stop* Level 87 : 3 Octopus (5) Level 88 : 3 Octopus (8) Level 89 : 3 Octopus (11) Level 90 : 3 Octopus (14) Level 91 : 3 Octopus (17) Level 92 : 3 Octopus (20) Level 93 : 3 Octopus (23) Level 94 : 3 Octopus (26) Level 95 : 3 Octopus (29) Level 96 : 1 Octopus (30) *Maxed*; 2 Flamethrower (2) Level 97 : 3 Flamethrower (5) Level 98 : 3 Flamethrower (8) Level 99 : 3 Flamethrower (11) Level 100 : 3 Flamethrower (14) Level 101 : 3 Flamethrower (17) Level 102 : 3 Flamethrower (20) Level 103 : 3 Flamethrower (23) Level 104 : 3 Flamethrower (26) Level 105 : 3 Flamethrower (29) Level 106 : 1 Flamethrower (30) *Maxed*; 2 Gaviota (3) Level 107 : 3 Gaviota (6) Level 108 : 3 Gaviota (9) Level 109 : 3 Gaviota (12) Level 110 : 3 Gaviota (15) *Stop* Level 111 : 3 Homing Beacon (3) Level 112 : 3 Homing Beacon (6) Level 113 : 3 Homing Beacon (9) Level 114 : 3 Homing Beacon (12) Level 115 : 3 Homing Beacon (15) Level 116 : 3 Homing Beacon (18) Level 117 : 3 Homing Beacon (21) Level 118 : 3 Homing Beacon (24) Level 119 : 3 Homing Beacon (27) Level 120 : 3 Homing Beacon (30) *Maxed*

gamerguy217 05/10/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hmm, i think im gonna go with this build as well, and I put 1 gaviota at 71 and it is pretty helpful at windraiders(if it doesnt go after stormbreakers)

5INFUl 05/10/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

RoyalAsassin said: " Thanks for the input from both of you guys! I was looking at Hidden-Street and I thought IS hits mobs of 6 at Level 25 so I left it at 25, but I guess Hidden-Street's description is wrong again? Then again, I'm already Level 77 so I haven't added any points into any other skills except Burst Fire and Ice Splitter. I guess this means, after getting Ice Splitter to 26, get 1 Gaviota, and start maxing out Octopus? Edit: Well, here it is, 30FT/26IS. Level 70 : 1 Burst Fire (1) Level 71 : 3 Burst Fire (4) Level 72 : 3 Burst Fire (7) Level 73 : 3 Burst Fire (10) Level 74 : 3 Burst Fire (13) Level 75 : 3 Burst Fire (16) Level 76 : 3 Burst Fire (19) Level 77 : 1 Burst Fire (20) *Maxed*; 2 Ice Splitter (2) Level 78 : 3 Ice Splitter (5) Level 79 : 3 Ice Splitter (8) Level 80 : 3 Ice Splitter (11) Level 81 : 3 Ice Splitter (14) Level 82 : 3 Ice Splitter (17) Level 83 : 3 Ice Splitter (20) Level 84 : 3 Ice Splitter (23) Level 85 : 3 Ice Splitter (26) *Maxed* Level 86 : 2 Octopus (2) ; 1 Gaviota (1) *Stop* Level 87 : 3 Octopus (5) Level 88 : 3 Octopus (8) Level 89 : 3 Octopus (11) Level 90 : 3 Octopus (14) Level 91 : 3 Octopus (17) Level 92 : 3 Octopus (20) Level 93 : 3 Octopus (23) Level 94 : 3 Octopus (26) Level 95 : 3 Octopus (29) Level 96 : 1 Octopus (30) *Maxed*; 2 Flamethrower (2) Level 97 : 3 Flamethrower (5) Level 98 : 3 Flamethrower (8) Level 99 : 3 Flamethrower (11) Level 100 : 3 Flamethrower (14) Level 101 : 3 Flamethrower (17) Level 102 : 3 Flamethrower (20) Level 103 : 3 Flamethrower (23) Level 104 : 3 Flamethrower (26) Level 105 : 3 Flamethrower (29) Level 106 : 1 Flamethrower (30) *Maxed*; 2 Gaviota (3) Level 107 : 3 Gaviota (6) Level 108 : 3 Gaviota (9) Level 109 : 3 Gaviota (12) Level 110 : 3 Gaviota (15) *Stop* Level 111 : 3 Homing Beacon (3) Level 112 : 3 Homing Beacon (6) Level 113 : 3 Homing Beacon (9) Level 114 : 3 Homing Beacon (12) Level 115 : 3 Homing Beacon (15) Level 116 : 3 Homing Beacon (18) Level 117 : 3 Homing Beacon (21) Level 118 : 3 Homing Beacon (24) Level 119 : 3 Homing Beacon (27) Level 120 : 3 Homing Beacon (30) *Maxed*" Well you'll end up having one extra point after maxing everything else and with IS at 25(I'm fairly sure, I don't feel like doing the math atm xD), and that's where the last point in IS comes into play.

natedoggydog 05/10/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

RoyalAsassin said: " Thanks for the input from both of you guys! I was looking at Hidden-Street and I thought IS hits mobs of 6 at Level 25 so I left it at 25, but I guess Hidden-Street's description is wrong again? Then again, I'm already Level 77 so I haven't added any points into any other skills except Burst Fire and Ice Splitter. I guess this means, after getting Ice Splitter to 26, get 1 Gaviota, and start maxing out Octopus? Edit: Well, here it is, 30FT/26IS. Level 70 : 1 Burst Fire (1) Level 71 : 3 Burst Fire (4) Level 72 : 3 Burst Fire (7) Level 73 : 3 Burst Fire (10) Level 74 : 3 Burst Fire (13) Level 75 : 3 Burst Fire (16) Level 76 : 3 Burst Fire (19) Level 77 : 1 Burst Fire (20) *Maxed*; 2 Ice Splitter (2) Level 78 : 3 Ice Splitter (5) Level 79 : 3 Ice Splitter (8) Level 80 : 3 Ice Splitter (11) Level 81 : 3 Ice Splitter (14) Level 82 : 3 Ice Splitter (17) Level 83 : 3 Ice Splitter (20) Level 84 : 3 Ice Splitter (23) Level 85 : 3 Ice Splitter (26) *Maxed* Level 86 : 2 Octopus (2) ; 1 Gaviota (1) *Stop* Level 87 : 3 Octopus (5) Level 88 : 3 Octopus (8) Level 89 : 3 Octopus (11) Level 90 : 3 Octopus (14) Level 91 : 3 Octopus (17) Level 92 : 3 Octopus (20) Level 93 : 3 Octopus (23) Level 94 : 3 Octopus (26) Level 95 : 3 Octopus (29) Level 96 : 1 Octopus (30) *Maxed*; 2 Flamethrower (2) Level 97 : 3 Flamethrower (5) Level 98 : 3 Flamethrower (8) Level 99 : 3 Flamethrower (11) Level 100 : 3 Flamethrower (14) Level 101 : 3 Flamethrower (17) Level 102 : 3 Flamethrower (20) Level 103 : 3 Flamethrower (23) Level 104 : 3 Flamethrower (26) Level 105 : 3 Flamethrower (29) Level 106 : 1 Flamethrower (30) *Maxed*; 2 Gaviota (3) Level 107 : 3 Gaviota (6) Level 108 : 3 Gaviota (9) Level 109 : 3 Gaviota (12) Level 110 : 3 Gaviota (15) *Stop* Level 111 : 3 Homing Beacon (3) Level 112 : 3 Homing Beacon (6) Level 113 : 3 Homing Beacon (9) Level 114 : 3 Homing Beacon (12) Level 115 : 3 Homing Beacon (15) Level 116 : 3 Homing Beacon (18) Level 117 : 3 Homing Beacon (21) Level 118 : 3 Homing Beacon (24) Level 119 : 3 Homing Beacon (27) Level 120 : 3 Homing Beacon (30) *Maxed*" It does freeze 6 at 25.

VirgilDiablo 05/10/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

In my personal experience, Gaviota helps more then Octopus does in training.

RoyalAsassin 05/10/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

natedoggydog said: " It does freeze 6 at 25." Well, seeing that I'll just have an extra point, I edited my build and went 26IS/30FT instead.

natedoggydog 05/10/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

P.S. Octo is only slightly useful at newties anyway in 3rd job. It will probably only attack 2-3 times by the time you kill a newt, and that's basically 1 more shot, which you could get in the time it takes to summon octo. The only good time to summon octo is when there is nothing to kill. And 4th job, don't even get me started on octo's uselessness. I constantly 2-3 hit newts anyway, so in that that time octo would attack about once, which would not lower my total hits to kill at all.