Dex Base for Warrirors

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thread starter StrChiefG7 May 09 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What is the agverage dex for a warrior would need overall for basic training? I am having problem with trying to kill monsters. Was planning to go dexless but its diffcult to find stuff for acc so I would be able to hit stronger monsters. Thank you for the responses if its helpful.

blampire 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I agree with Xpedia and Chiefmonkey; if your players info is right, at lvl 22 you shouldn t have problems training with most of monster for those levels, and even if you have, you can get a pig book, sniper pills, a 100% fully scrolled for dex overall and have the neccesary boost of accuracy for the job advancement and some training with just some more dex added to base; I even encourage ppl with no patience or fundings for lower dex builds to go on a regular dex build or to just keep going, adding dex when it is neccesary (usually after they find a monster they can t train on that is at a suggested level... 1 more level at previous training spot won t hurt that much).

StrChiefG7 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So 60 would be consider standard? And thank you for the advises.

TheRebel 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@ ts on sleepywood senyain posted a very convincin paragraph stating that higher base dex beats out dexless/lowdex given similar funding when the funding is below 400-500m after that normal dex cant get enough str to offset the balance

YourPirateGuy 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

4 dex here, no funding :]. Level 34 currently.

StrChiefG7 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

TheRebel said: "@ ts on sleepywood senyain posted a very convincin paragraph stating that higher base dex beats out dexless/lowdex given similar funding when the funding is below 400-500m after that normal dex cant get enough str to offset the balance" Can you give me the link? Will be very appreciated.

TheRebel May 09 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah sure here it is its from awhile back i found it and am now raising my base dex =) and im so much happier playing now then i was buying dex equips im selling all my dex equips and im at 350m funding =) thanks to it Here you go its the third post down i read the whole thing start to finish because i was worried about dex EDIT also as im raising my base dex needing less acc equips im buying better weapons and i bough myself a 10 att wg my damage is already better than it was while i was dexless and i get speed boost =)no more acc rs i bough 10 speed ones working on getting jump shoes because i like jump better then when my dex is high enough im going to get rid of my overall and get a nice top and bottom and scroll it myself =) for str and whatever i want on the bottom

CrisChen 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

4 base dex. 14X acc

squall1492 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

im level 30 and im capping my dex @ 60

kingarthur 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

well I have a dexless warrior at lvl 41 at the equips I use are: blue wiscosin +7acc or black-red starry bandana +12acc ( I'm using the bandana) 100% scrolled random warrior glove +5acc squishy shoes +everything 1 except speed +3 and dex +2 100% scrolled blue chainmail +14dex spieglmen necklace I have about 59acc (including maxed mastery) if need more acc get: sniper pills or a maple weapon I got a maple sword so I can get in total of 79 acc, but I don't use it usually, cuz it drags a bit of my damage and if sniper pills will be 89acc

Billis 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i capped @ 60 and ive got no problem's with killing anything =]

SilverFoxR 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

80 base DEX is considered "Normal". The lower DEX you have, the more you will need to spend on DEX equips. If you just want to go normal DEX, cap at 80 by the time you reach lv 70 and the moment you get a ZHelm, your accuacy should be fine for most of (if not the rest of) the game.

kingarthur 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

yeah, when u get ZHelm, u can hit nearly everything. and btw, how much is a ZHelm?

TheRebel 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well since alot of people didnt bother to read it ill just post this here its very informative senyain said: "The reason people are still "arguing" is that no, most people didn't start their character with enough to buy the dex equips to even GET to level 90 while dexless/low dex; no, most people don't have 200M+ by level 90; and no, "80 more points of STR" is NOT a competent comparison of the two. As usual, Sleepywood's elitists are giving half-truths set to deceive new players into following a strict code of conformity that claims "dexless hybrid DKs and 2h sword Crusaders are the only 3rd jobbers capable of training efficiently," or even that they're necessarily the most efficient at any given level of funding. They're not. I've proven this time and again in this thread and nobody's given a coherent response except "ur logik iz flaud." But I've come to expect that from SW, especially when its users' points are proven wrong, which was partially why I initially quit the forum about a year ago for Basil. At least there, if you give them some argument proving them wrong, they try to back it up with a counter-argument. Now, regarding the 10 dex vs. 90 dex comparison, what you're forgetting is, again, expenditure on dex equips. Firstly, because of the possibility of 90 dex using a STR top, the real STR difference is more like 60-65, not 80. Secondly, you're once again ignoring weapon attack. Having 10 dex actually requires equips for accuracy that cost around 200 mil. 90 dex requires maybe 30 mil at most in dex equips. Where is the 10 dex user getting this free 170 mil in dex equips? Is he pulling it out of his arse? While the 10 dex user is sitting there fiddling with his dex equips (assuming he even has the 200 mil to begin with, and I pity any player who doesn't have it that actually follows the advice of the low-dex fascists on this thread), the 90 dex user is taking that 170 mil and pouring it into weapon attack. As mentioned before, dexless surpassing normal dex is dependent upon the amount of weapon attack the mesos saved by the normal dex can buy. An obvious comparison is that if you've got 210 mil, then the normal dex can spend 180 mil on attack while the dexless can spend 10 mil. I really hope I don't even need to say who wins then, because then I will have lost my hope in humanity for good. If it's at 300 mil, then 100 mil to the dexless vs. 270 mil to the normal dex in weapon attack. Normal dex still wins. At 400 mil, 200 mil vs. 370 mil. Dexless's advantage *might* surpass this level of attack difference. And at 500 mil the difference between 300 mil vs. 470 mil in attack would most likely finally be surpassed by the 60-65 extra STR - but by a small amount. To put your content into more concrete figures, let's suppose 400 STR with equips vs. 465 STR with equips, 120 total DEX vs. 70 total DEX. At 200 mil vs. 370 mil, the weapon attack figures between glove/cape/weapon for a DK might be, say, 130 vs. 124. The 90 dex in this case has a ba

darkfire400 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

im lvl 28 currently and i hav 4 dex and am having no trouble hittin anytin appropriate 4 my lvl and yay i do 1.5kish sometimes! XD

TheRebel 05/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

darkfire400 said: "im lvl 28 currently and i hav 4 dex and am having no trouble hittin anytin appropriate 4 my lvl and yay i do 1.5kish sometimes! XD" the main point of capping dex is for lvl 70 and beyong when youll need more accuracy since dexless warriors dont usually have to buy dex equips thats what the above comparison is for its easy to be dexless 1-60 after is the porblem and like senyain wrote in that pargraph normal beats out dexless usually* with the same funding and have higher speed exept when the funding is 400m-500m and beyong when the normal dex lose out tbecause of a 50-65 str difference usally wich is quite small infact i think thats only like 400 damage from max and also 200 from min