Whats wrong with Axe Fighters?

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thread starter PiggyAvenger Apr 29 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Okay, I can see why there aren't many Pages, because they (no offense) suck compared to their cousins Spearmen, and Fighters especially at 4th Job. But why aren't there many Axe Fighters? They are like 4 times cheaper than Sword Fighters, and hella easy to fund. My brother told me it was something to do with Brandish durring fourth job.

Pyrhean 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Strong slash, weak stabs. Brandish has a forced stab.

SmecksiStars 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Brandish uses a stab and a slash.

PiggyAvenger 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So stab = more damage for swords, and slash = more damage for axes?

Korean Apr 29 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

PiggyAvenger said: "So stab = more damage for swords, and slash = more damage for axes?" Swords' slash and stabs are the same damage It's called stable damage

Pyrhean 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Swords have equally strong slashes and stabs, so their damage is stabler. Axes have slashes stronger than a sword's slash, but their stab is waay weaker than a sword's stab.

YueRiku Apr 29 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Your going to get r@ped by paladins. Blast and ACB finally replace powerstrike and slashblast for new paladins. Blast's 550% damage and ACB's unlimited stunning abilities make Pallies a force to be reckoned with; especially considering holy charge's 140% base damage multiplier. At max, Heaven's hammer is the best mobbing tool in the game, immediately reducing any large mob's hp to 1. This allows pallys to kill a mob of 15 himes, in about 5 seconds with heaven's hammer + 3 rushes. Not to mention, blast also has a very slight speed boost over brandish, though 1-handed users still benefit more from Brandish. Despite losing out to Heros' verticle range, the fact that Paladins need to remain close to their enemies allow them to take advantage of their own strength: mainly speed. Because of ACB's 90% stun rate (When maxed) and uninterruptable qualities, (not to mention Rush's ability to dodge magic attacks) a Pally has the potential to use VERY little pots while training. Pallys are a little more helpful at bosses in 4th job simply because they're doing a lot more damage, but unless the boss has an elemental weakness (pianus, crow, etc.) a Hero will generally do more damage.

PiggyAvenger 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Oh, so Axes kind of are like Spears and Pole arms?

ducky315 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

what they sad

likeagod 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

wait wait wait. i pity you for saying Pages suck. having their elemental boosts allow them to train at more places than other warrior can. at 4th job, they are the best solo skeles or himes class dude to holy elental. BLAST IS SPAMMABLE holy hammer! one of the best looking, if not, the best looking skill in the game.

Pyrhean 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

PiggyAvenger said: "Oh, so Axes kind of are like Spears and Pole arms?" Exactly.

idkdude 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It was fair until fourth job came out because the slash:stab ratio made the probable damage higher than swords but less stable. Now, there is absolutely no point in pursuing an axe hero, as rush and brandish are entirely in favor of swords' equal stabs. Now, there are all kinds of better swords, which overpower the 2 attack bonus axes had. Also, there are no fast one-handed axes past black paintbrushes while the level 110 sword is fast and the lunchbox is faster . The disadvantages go on...

ROKOCOCO13 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Paladins are good but the time barrier within each skills takes 2 long so wen bossing may affect it. e.g wen ur in a horntail pq or w/e fighting a strong as boss, the delay after using any skill may cause you to use more pots etc w/e.

YueRiku 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ROKOCOCO13 said: "Paladins are good but the time barrier within each skills takes 2 long so wen bossing may affect it. e.g wen ur in a horntail pq or w/e fighting a strong as boss, the delay after using any skill may cause you to use more pots etc w/e." Blast and acb are spammable.

PiggyAvenger 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

YueRiku said: "Your going to get r@ped by paladins. [quote] Blast and ACB finally replace powerstrike and slashblast for new paladins. Blast's 550% damage and ACB's unlimited stunning abilities make Pallies a force to be reckoned with; especially considering holy charge's 140% base damage multiplier. At max, Heaven's hammer is the best mobbing tool in the game, immediately reducing any large mob's hp to 1. This allows pallys to kill a mob of 15 himes, in about 5 seconds with heaven's hammer + 3 rushes. Not to mention, blast also has a very slight speed boost over brandish, though 1-handed users still benefit more from Brandish. Despite losing out to Heros' verticle range, the fact that Paladins need to remain close to their enemies allow them to take advantage of their own strength: mainly speed. Because of ACB's 90% stun rate (When maxed) and uninterruptable qualities, (not to mention Rush's ability to dodge magic attacks) a Pally has the potential to use VERY little pots while training. Pallys are a little more helpful at bosses in 4th job simply because they're doing a lot more damage, but unless the boss has an elemental weakness (pianus, crow, etc.) a Hero will generally do more damage. For your question: [quote]� Swords are a lot more stable than axes. For two handed weapons, an axe does 104% damage of a sword while slashing, but only 75% compared to a sword�s damage while stabbing. A sword is constant on both slashes and stabs. An axe's damage is random, and its damage depends solely on the type of swing that occurs. The current ratio for slash/stab in GMS is 3 slashes : 2 stabs. Can someone clarify that? It's been so long since I last MSed that I've forgotten the slash/stab ratio Might have been 2/3 slash 1/3 stab. � The sad thing is that most people NPC their axes, so finding a nicely scrolled one can be somewhat difficult. Scrolling a nice axe yourself, though, will be a lot cheaper than scrolling or buying a nice sword. � If you plan on playing maple for the rest of your life, do not go axes. In fourth job, axes get shafted severely as brandish registers as a 1 slash 1 stab opposed to 2 slashes. Although it is possible to go hybrid in late 3rd job, it's not worth the trouble of switching to swords just for fourth job (might as well just stick to swords). � Swords have superior DPM than Axes. A 80 attack sword with normal speed will generally outdamage an 80 attack axe over time. I believe the figures were sword = 108% axe damage, therefore you'd need a nicely scrolled axe to compensate for a decent attack sword. � In general, swords are faster than axes. Most 2h swords are at least normal(6) speed, 1h swords are usually fast (5-) speed. About 50 percent of the axes you'll encounter going 2h are slow (7) speed, the rest are normal (6) speed. No 2h axe is fast speed, and most 1h axes are only normal(6) speed (some fast 5). " hmm, i have a lv 22 warrior, and my brother told me that pages would have trouble bossing later on.. I was going t