ok so Sindit>full Dit? or otherway for 1-40(their even here)

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thread starter gamerrttag Apr 29 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So it WOULD BE A NORMAL DEX build and i dont really care how long it takes for me to level sicne it would be an Alt/Mule unless i love it eventually. Anyone want to weigh in?

gamerrttag 04/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Either people cannot read or their dumb I said ds now I will have a mel�e alternative so I don't know how that was read wrong or what but whatever I will make a pure dit alternative so I can have a mel�e alternative

pavchka Apr 30 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Neokaer said: " DS is 130% now, was it something else before? Bc I've always remembered it to be 130%" Meh, Nexon's been Nexon and only changed what was important. Double Stab starts at 100 or so % damage per stab at level 1 now and does 140% per stab at Master Level. Nexon never changed the skill description. Something similar happened to Chakra, which heals more than before and used to cost more Mp in the past, but there the description was never changed. BoT uses less Mp than before too (25 at Master Level), but the description still says it takes 50, I think. Anyway, Double Stab now does 280% damage total. I like it that way. I did 5.5K with it once. To the Thread Starter: with all due respect your English is a little confusing to me due to a lack of puctuation marks. (I feel like a damn Grammar Nazi now and there's nothing I hate as much as Grammar Nazis) I'm checking your posts again. EDIT: I think you made up your mind... I think. But next time please do NOT, I repeat, do NOT call the people who are trying to help you stupid with such punctuation! That doesn't gain you any sympathy. Pure vs sindit threads always end up like this. I've been called "inhuman", "idiotic" and "pathetic" for being a Pure Bandit a couple of times in threads like this. Why? This is a game. You can do as you please. There's nothing at stake as long as you remain within the lines of legitimacy.

Bananorama 04/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sindits are awesome if you like to GPQ, but your guild can't kill Ergoth yet. Then you can gargoyle as well as bomb.

techboy 04/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

DARK SIGHT DARK SIGHT DARK SIGHT you will have less points in dark sight if u go the sindit way. sure u will lvl a little faster from 10 to 40 but in the end u will need dark sight maxed and u wont fins any use for L7 after a certain lvl

LampShadow 04/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I went sindit and I have dark sight maxed. You just don't max steal, simple as that. Lucky 7 is somewhat useful after the 30's, when ariant first came out I was able to kill the spawning monsters fast enough so that other sins wouldn't ks me. It's also nice to show off with, at lvl 100 my Lucky 7 can do 9k, which is more than most hermits can do in their 70's and low 80's. Also, without having crit your damage is alot more stable (although of course lower). I had a hermit before I made this guy so I found it easy to just keep doing what I was doing until I got SB. It makes training up to about 30~35 alot more barable. Having max keen eyes is also useful in ludi pq and guild pq because it requires long range characters, so it will make you more usable. Otherwise...it still is a nice show off move >.< lol I've had people think I was just an unlucky hermit cause I'd never get critical, but yeah, it's nice and it gives you some attention as well as usefulness.

Zalune 04/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sindit because you level faster with lucky 7 :o

pavchka 05/01/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

techboy said: "DARK SIGHT DARK SIGHT DARK SIGHT you will have less points in dark sight if u go the sindit way. sure u will lvl a little faster from 10 to 40 but in the end u will need dark sight maxed and u wont fins any use for L7 after a certain lvl" Strictly speaking you don't need a maxed Dark Sight to play a Shadower, not even when you take Assassinate into account.

mimomuffin May 01 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah, people become Sindits just so they can lvl 10-30 faster. EdIT: You will i repeat you will max dark sight at the end of 2nd job.

KsTHIS 05/01/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

SINDIT! it's REALLY easy to train! you do 40% more damage, and that helps TONS while trying to get to level 42 (for mastery savage blow) DO IT

pavchka May 01 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

KsTHIS said: "SINDIT! it's REALLY easy to train! you do 40% more damage, and that helps TONS while trying to get to level 42 (for mastery savage blow) DO IT" It's 20% now. The skill's been changed, but the skill description hasn't. It does 280% damage now. EDIT: Your post in (unintentionally) misleading, since Double Stab's damage isn't 20% lower than Lucky 7's damage: it would be Lucky 7's damage - 20% of your NORMAL damage range if the damage formulae were similar. But they aren't. I don't know Lucky 7's damage formula with that LUK affects it more etc etc... Double Stab depends more on weapon ATT than on LUK.

Sephirek 05/01/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I became bandit cause I wanted challenge. I don't like making challenges easier. btw I plan to get 1 steal and max lucky 7 and Keen Eyes durnig lvls 60-70 :P Just for fun because both steal and endure seems useless to me. If I were a sindit I wold max Double Stap at that lvls.

LoveIsMIA 05/01/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

vlcmdude said: " A sin with double stab? I'm sorry, but that's just plain stupid." couldnt agree more.

MerchantChebi 05/01/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

sindit is pretty awsome. my cb was a sindit. made lvling up faster to 40. the difference between a sindit and a normal dit is that sindit can use the L7 formula, doing as much damage as they can with as much luck as they have. another thing is that they get to throw, making them kill monsters further and faster. another thing is that they can use ilibis, giving u a huge attack booste from lvl 10-40 easily. not to mention u can borrow or buy a cheap maple claw which can be scrolled with 100% claw scrolls adn dish out pretty nice damage. or... use a regular claw at the apporiate lvl. basilly, a sindit can be faster at lvling at the lower lvls because of the aviable equipments that u can borrow from ur counter part til u get a nice lvl of sb.

pavchka 05/01/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Oh, yeah, another reason why I'm pure: I always have another skill up my sleeve that I can use without having to swap weapons. I can do 5.5K with Double Stab while my attack range is only 12XX-2018. I prefer using it over Assaulter. Assaulter can't be used from certain positions.

LampShadow 05/01/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I know people say double stab is a "good" finishing move, but seriously why can't you just use an extra savage blow to kill the monster? If you're worried about saving mp that's what endure is for. Even against a high defense monster at high levels (like a goby house for example) using savage blow to finish it off would be more useful than double stab. If double stab does 140% x2 and SB does 80% x6 even if the monster prevents 40% of your damage from each attack double stab will do 200% and SB will do 240%. And at high enough levels you'll be using assaulter anyways which doesn't even apply weapon defense to your damage so I honestly don't see how having double stab is any more useful than having lucky 7 at higher levels. They both are pretty useless