1st Job Assassin SP

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thread starter Holeinshoe Apr 22 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I've always read that you should go with 10 darksight but I'm so used to maxxed darksight + haste. Would 10 points off nimble really be the bad? They could easily be added at the end of the 3rd job adv. It seems like those 10 points would be better in darksight for the time being because sins already have massive avoid+accuracy. I've had a few hermits and it didnt seem all that important and if this were my own character I'd go with darksight but It's my friends so I don't wanna mess anything up :P

ruperthuang 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

yes...sins/hermits/NLs get tons of acc and avoid anyway. 10 acc/avoid isnt gonna make much of a difference. 20 dark sight ftw :D and i regret maxing nimble instead of dark sight

Sumwun 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You don't need max dark sight as a sin. SO yes it'd be bad. Max it in 2nd job if you really want it, but I wouldn't recommend it.

xxaznpridexx 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

you won't really mess up your biuld if you get max darksight its your choice

Demon671 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ds ftw! nimble is not that great really but hell i maxed it cause shadow meso was even more epic fail

petertre 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dark Sight will not work with haste if you are in dark sight at the moment. You cannot use the skill after you do dark sight, so i recommend maxing nimble first. Those 10 acc and 10 avoid will save you later on when you start to hunt stronger monsters, 10~20 higher than your lvl. You have shadow meso and shadow web for DS, don't worry.

xXjarakudaXx 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Takeback3r 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Demon671 Apr 22 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

petertre said: "Dark Sight will not work with haste if you are in dark sight at the moment. You cannot use the skill after you do dark sight, so i recommend maxing nimble first. Those 10 acc and 10 avoid will save you later on when you start to hunt stronger monsters, 10~20 higher than your lvl. You have shadow meso and shadow web for DS, don't worry." It doesn't really matter the 10 acc and 10 avoid is really nothing for theifs. And haste does work with darksight when maxed. the only time haste gets nullified is when you dont have max darksight because max ds gives no negative effects to speed and jump so with no negatives then you just simply have the add on from haste EDIT: Lol at 3 people replying practically at the same time on one persons post!

petertre 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

woah...guys 3 posts already. What i meant is you cannot use haste when you are in dark sight. But yes, that 10 acc matters. My brother who is 61 cannot train with me because of acc problems. When you start to hunt 70+ monsters at 60; which you shouldn't in first place, that 10 acc will save you rather than that DS with maxed haste to run away and hit misses.

qwan456 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

petertre said: "woah...guys 3 posts already. What i meant is you cannot use haste when you are in dark sight. But yes, that 10 acc matters. My brother who is 61 cannot train with me because of acc problems. When you start to hunt 70+ monsters at 60; which you shouldn't in first place, that 10 acc will save you rather than that DS with maxed haste to run away and hit misses." What monster he is training at? At level 60, people usually train at STDs, hoodoos, and windraiders. So I'm guessing he missing at Windraiders? I know a few DEXlesses that went with maxing DS instead and didn't have any ACC problem. They made it up to level 80, if remember correctly. Maybe your brother is training at the wrong place?

Takeback3r Apr 22 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

petertre said: "woah...guys 3 posts already. What i meant is you cannot use haste when you are in dark sight. But yes, that 10 acc matters. My brother who is 61 cannot train with me because of acc problems. When you start to hunt 70+ monsters at 60; which you shouldn't in first place, that 10 acc will save you rather than that DS with maxed haste to run away and hit misses." The acc needed to hit a windraider at level 60 100% of the time is 154. If you don't have 154 acc by level 60 as a ranged class who only adds AP into luck or dex, you must have 20+ AP into str or are doing something else ridiculously wrong.

coldxkt 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

petertre said: "woah...guys 3 posts already. What i meant is you cannot use haste when you are in dark sight. But yes, that 10 acc matters. My brother who is 61 cannot train with me because of acc problems. When you start to hunt 70+ monsters at 60; which you shouldn't in first place, that 10 acc will save you rather than that DS with maxed haste to run away and hit misses." How do you have acc problems? That's impossible. Base stats alone, dexless have a lot of acc. You'll have 305 acc MINIMUM from just luk alone. It's either your brother is smoking something and he sees misses or he screwed up his stats. Btw, regular/low dex have more acc than dexless, so you should have more than 305. I went windraiders at 5x, so don't complain that you can't hit them either.

petertre Apr 22 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

We were trying to get horns off Tauro, which didn't work out well there were 3 graves by end of the day. T_T EDIT: oh yea, my bros a mage for those people wondering why he hit misses.

theasiankid 04/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

well, nimble is not needed if your NOT dexless. If you dexless every bit of accuracy is helpfull. P.S - 1 dex is equal to 0.8 of accuracy, so about 2 dex equals 1 accuracy! I hope this helped. Byeee!