Slow or MP Eater?

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thread starter BloodySoul07 Apr 16 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I made an I/L and i was wondering what would be more helpful in the long run? Not training now but which will have helped me out in money and or time?

Todesser 04/16/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

go for mpe now, and for slow in 3rd job

marcho175 04/16/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

u mean dnt max thunder spear and put points into slow.. wudnt they be better off in seal?

BloodySoul07 04/16/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

idk i just made a I/L... I was a cleric, still am so im just used to the setup for cleric. Why not max thunder spear?

kirbyhyper Apr 16 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

marcho175 said: "u mean dnt max thunder spear and put points into slow.. wudnt they be better off in seal?" Original I/L 3rd job builds that had both Elemental Composition and Thunder Spear maxed ended with Slow at 1, Seal at 19, and Spell Booster at 11. 29 SP will max them ALL out, which you can get from not maxing Thunder Spear/Elemental Composition and leaving it at 1. @thread starter: One of the attack skills (Elemental Composition or Thunder Spear; NO ONE will drop Ice Strike) is dropped in order to be able to max out the three skills I just mentioned. Usually this is Thunder Spear as Elemental Composition has a higher damage per minute and has freezing capability. Edit: On topic: Both skills are worthless in 2nd job, but MP Eater serves you better in 3rd job (because you're getting hit less at the very least; Firebrand training is said to be amazing with max MP Eater but level 3 is probably doable as well [I personally went Slow over MP Eater so my MP Eater is at level 3; I'll try it out later when I stop dying at Valley of Heroes xD]. Slow is better for 4th job (but you can max it at 3rd as I said before) in terms of bossing, and when it comes to training neither will help very much due to the high MP cost of Blizzard.

undream 04/16/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You know you can max both...AND slow (I did) by skipping cold beam altogether. Skip TS and you can max booster, PR, AND seal. This is the best way I think. 11 booster is annoying to keep recasting, and seal is ESSENTIAL in 4th job. Trust me on this one. And better to have a passive like Partial Resistance than an attack you'll never use again as an Archmage.

FissionSpell 04/16/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

undream said: "You know you can max both...AND slow (I did) by skipping cold beam altogether. Skip TS and you can max booster, PR, AND seal. This is the best way I think. 11 booster is annoying to keep recasting, and seal is ESSENTIAL in 4th job. Trust me on this one. And better to have a passive like Partial Resistance than an attack you'll never use again as an Archmage." This is what I would do EXCEPT drop BOTH Thunder Spear AND Comp while still maxing Cold Beam. Cold Beam has a higher Damage per minute than Comp while using an elemental Wand 3 so I chose Cold Beam over Comp. So, in the end, I will Max all of the 2nd and 3rd job skills except TS and Comp

kirbyhyper 04/17/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FissionSpell said: "This is what I would do EXCEPT drop BOTH Thunder Spear AND Comp while still maxing Cold Beam. Cold Beam has a higher Damage per minute than Comp while using an elemental Wand 3 so I chose Cold Beam over Comp. So, in the end, I will Max all of the 2nd and 3rd job skills except TS and Comp" IIRC this is ONLY against Ice-weak monsters. Elemental Composition would still do more to Ice-neutral.

VietDreamer 04/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

guys you're off topic we're talking about eater and slow here X_x

BloodySoul07 04/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thanks for all these answers! :D

Todesser 04/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FissionSpell said: " This is what I would do EXCEPT drop BOTH Thunder Spear AND Comp while still maxing Cold Beam. Cold Beam has a higher Damage per minute than Comp while using an elemental Wand 3 so I chose Cold Beam over Comp. So, in the end, I will Max all of the 2nd and 3rd job skills except TS and Comp" when you train, you use is all the way and bosses are normaly not ice weak (only hh). And i think you want to go to pap/pianus/{other boss with more than 5mill hp} w/o be a "noob", cuz your dmg with cd is bad.

FissionSpell 04/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Todesser said: " when you train, you use is all the way and bosses are normaly not ice weak (only hh). And i think you want to go to pap/pianus/{other boss with more than 5mill hp} w/o be a "noob", cuz your dmg with cd is bad." If all you do is train, Comp/ Cold Beam / TS is not even needed. You already have Cold Beam from second job anyway so why put more points into Comp or TS especailly since that Cold Beam + elemental wand 3 would out damage comp on neutral monsters in terms of Damage per Minute. In terms of Damage per hit, you are right, Comp has better damage. But while you are bossing, its all about damage per minute, and Cold Beam wins out. Now, if you don't have an elemental Wand 3, then comp would be a better choice.

Echofoxz 04/18/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lol, poll is 12 vs 0 MP eater. it saves lots of pot and money

VietDreamer 04/19/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

save slow for 3rd job and skip one attacking skill

marcho175 04/19/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wait so to max slow. seal. Booster. And resistance I have to chose between not maxing ts or EC or am I supposed to not max both