Bossing after KMS skill updates

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thread starter Joba Apr 12 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hey, yesterday I had this thought and wondered if anyone else has any clue. After the skill updates in KMS, you could use *any* attack in Transform and S.Transform, as we all know. No? Well, with this I was wondering, would spamming Demolition > Barrage > Demolition be an increase in DPM compared to just spamming Demolition? Also would this give you 100% invicibility? Has anyone done the math of Demo > Barrage combo DPM?

YourPirateGuy Apr 12 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Class Weapon Skill Solo SE only SI only Both Buccaneer Knuckle Demolition 67,837 71,399 67,837 71,399 Buccaneer Knuckle Barrage+DS 53,697 57,635 53,697 57,635 [Quote me for the more organized look]

Akadouri Apr 12 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

opps never mind.

Joba 04/12/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

YourPirateGuy said: "Class Weapon Skill Solo SE only SI only Both Buccaneer Knuckle Demolition 67,837 71,399 67,837 71,399 Buccaneer Knuckle Barrage+DS 53,697 57,635 53,697 57,635 [Quote me for the more organized look]" I know this, I meant after KMS skill updates. Demolition > Barrage.

sapphire8 Apr 13 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Nah, not really. Demolition alone would still be stronger. Demolition alone: 3200%/2.34s = 1368% Barrage alone, without delay: 2300%/1.83s = 1257% The second one would have to be higher than the first in order for inserting Barrage to be a damage increase of any kind.

Joba 04/13/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Mkay, thanks. :P I figured that with Barrage you could put Demo's small delay to a good use.

hidoshi94 04/13/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

between Demo's delay , u could use Duble Uppercut...wouldn't bo good?

bluva 04/13/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

kms had those new skills fix since January o.o

Takeback3r 04/13/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

For demo -> barrage -> demo to be an increase in damage that would mean that barrage would have to be doing more damage than demo, in which case there would be no point in demolition at all since barrage would be stronger. O_O

DarkIdent1ty 04/13/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I think barrage+orb or ds might be a bit stronger 10-30k per sec now. Only when you use apple. Because barrages last hit will be hitting 120k or something now if not more. In youtube videos of KMS orb hits like 40-70k w/o apple. Meaning with gms choas scrolls and atk pendants it was potential of over 100-150k. But still demo will over power it.

Joba 04/13/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm just throwing out ideas here. Demolition>DU>Demolition might be good too, although it kills the range of Demo.

Takeback3r Apr 13 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

DarkIdent1ty said: "I think barrage+orb or ds might be a bit stronger 10-30k per sec now. Only when you use apple. Because barrages last hit will be hitting 120k or something now if not more. In youtube videos of KMS orb hits like 40-70k w/o apple. Meaning with gms choas scrolls and atk pendants it was potential of over 100-150k. But still demo will over power it." Wasting 30 4th job points on a skill that's just as strong as spammable blast on each skills max amount of targets, only to really gain a potentially stronger 1v1 skill is not really worth it...

CallMeCy Apr 13 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't think you can use Barrage in STransform. Only certain skills like: DU, FF, SSK and etc. Even if you could it would kill the range. At bigfoot you will die if you try to barrage it 0.o

GodzofDevilz 04/13/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

danng you lvl fast dude.

Takeback3r 04/13/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

CallMeCy said: "I don't think you can use Barrage in STransform. Only certain skills like: DU, FF, SSK and etc." You can use ALL skills except barrel and double shot.